Lawrence County

[FARMTOFIELD]

Speaking of limits here's a reminder of what Lawrence County is seeing.

For what its worth there have been 126 birds killed in Lawrence so far this year. I'm betting at least 100 of those came from the extreme north end of the county

 

[All-Around-Hunter]

According to some on here they are awake, but continue to drive into on coming traffic and Think that it is ok and everything is peachy swell.

I'm going to be honest, if they would just act like they cared it would change my opinion on them.

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I agree. Changes were made in West TN to account for their population decline. I don't understand how they can let the southern middle region go unchecked when it is obvious that numbers are decreasing by the year. Unfortunately, the problem is not just in Lawrence Co. It's in multiple counties throughout the southern middle region. Lewis, Wayne, and Giles to name the main ones off the top of my head. Only thing I worry about is the changes that might be made if we get what we wish for. I can deal with a lower limit, but quota hunts only on the WMAs and closing the region down for half the season would put a damper on things

 

[ZachMarkus]

Speaking of limits here's a reminder of what Lawrence County is seeing.

For what its worth there have been 126 birds killed in Lawrence so far this year. I'm betting at least 100 of those came from the extreme north end of the county

Yep, when I took my turkey to the taxidermist the other day he said his farms in summertown has plenty of birds. Where are you seeing 126? I'm seeing 162, either way it sucks seeing how the county to our north is at 729.

 

[myboomisdoom]

I don't see how changing the limit will do much change if so many hunters are struggling to have an encounter with a bird. My fear is that if the limit lowers we will give up something we won't be able to recover... More opportunity to take another bird.


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[FARMTOFIELD]

Speaking of limits here's a reminder of what Lawrence County is seeing.

For what its worth there have been 126 birds killed in Lawrence so far this year. I'm betting at least 100 of those came from the extreme north end of the county

Yep, when I took my turkey to the taxidermist the other day he said his farms in summertown has plenty of birds. Where are you seeing 126? I'm seeing 162, either way it sucks seeing how the county to our north is at 729.

Got em backwards lol

 

[scn]

When will TWRA wake up....

TWRA thinks everything is great, so they won't wake up until the squeaky wheel gets loud enough. I spoke before the Commission last year on the turkey decline, but it is going to take a lot more than one person to get their attention.

 

[Bone Collector]

I did this Friday, but right at the end of work and we got off early, so I went home and never got on the internet this weekend. There is a harvest report floating around on the internet that the TWRA posted. It goes through 2011. The disclaimer I will add here is the #'s don't always match what comes up on their website, from 2006-2011. There are slight variances in the total kill #'s (+/- 30-50 birds in a given year). However it is what we have to work with. It starts in 1990 and some counties didn't have a season then.

Here is a graph I put together. I think the issue there became an issue when the limit went to 3. The kill #'s were already sinking for the most part, when it went to 4.
That being said, I don't think the TWRA has the workforce to do a bag limit, for each county, so I don't know what can be done other than either closing the season, for a couple of years or doing units, like they do for deer, which of course will just bring people from the lower bag limit units to the higher bag limit units to shoot extra birds. I don't think that is a good idea, but it's gonna happen anyway probably. That big yellow box down towards the bottom is supposed to say "under the 3 bird limit..."

 

[Roost 1]

Speaking of limits here's a reminder of what Lawrence County is seeing.

For what its worth there have been 126 birds killed in Lawrence so far this year. I'm betting at least 100 of those came from the extreme north end of the county

Yep, when I took my turkey to the taxidermist the other day he said his farms in summertown has plenty of birds. Where are you seeing 126? I'm seeing 162, either way it sucks seeing how the county to our north is at 729.

I would say thats a pretty low number for Maury Co. They usually break 1000!!!

 

[Oak]

I did this Friday, but right at the end of work and we got off early, so I went home and never got on the internet this weekend. There is a harvest report floating around on the internet that the TWRA posted. It goes through 2011. The disclaimer I will add here is the #'s don't always match what comes up on their website, from 2006-2011. There are slight variances in the total kill #'s (+/- 30-50 birds in a given year). However it is what we have to work with. It starts in 1990 and some counties didn't have a season then.

Here is a graph I put together. I think the issue there became an issue when the limit went to 3. The kill #'s were already sinking for the most part, when it went to 4.
That being said, I don't think the TWRA has the workforce to do a bag limit, for each county, so I don't know what can be done other than either closing the season, for a couple of years or doing units, like they do for deer, which of course will just bring people from the lower bag limit units to the higher bag limit units to shoot extra birds. I don't think that is a good idea, but it's gonna happen anyway probably. That big yellow box down towards the bottom is supposed to say "under the 3 bird limit..."

Nice graph BC,

Does this include fall kill numbers also?

As you stated, there appears to be some variances on the numbers from the hunters toolbox website.

Some flocks in Lawrence have disappeared completely, especially in the Mid to Southern portions.

It's almost come to the point that we need to consider bringing back a restocking program AND lower the limits.

 

[Bone Collector]

Thanks Oak.

No those are spring harvests only.

 

[Bone Collector]

I would say thats a pretty low number for Maury Co. They usually break 1000!!!

they are only about 51 birds behind where they were last year at this time.

 

[FARMTOFIELD]

I did this Friday, but right at the end of work and we got off early, so I went home and never got on the internet this weekend. There is a harvest report floating around on the internet that the TWRA posted. It goes through 2011. The disclaimer I will add here is the #'s don't always match what comes up on their website, from 2006-2011. There are slight variances in the total kill #'s (+/- 30-50 birds in a given year). However it is what we have to work with. It starts in 1990 and some counties didn't have a season then.

Here is a graph I put together. I think the issue there became an issue when the limit went to 3. The kill #'s were already sinking for the most part, when it went to 4.
That being said, I don't think the TWRA has the workforce to do a bag limit, for each county, so I don't know what can be done other than either closing the season, for a couple of years or doing units, like they do for deer, which of course will just bring people from the lower bag limit units to the higher bag limit units to shoot extra birds. I don't think that is a good idea, but it's gonna happen anyway probably. That big yellow box down towards the bottom is supposed to say "under the 3 bird limit..."

Here I'd the problem neither numbers or graph show, as stated in the big yellow box. One year to devastate a flock.

One year of a 4 bird limit absolutely didn't do that, this is coming from someone with experience hunting a large property that annually held 20 +/- toms and countless hens. And the graph is spot on and I remember it just like it was yesterday. In 2006 at the end of season there were at least 12 toms left on said property. 2007 there were 2 toms on the property and just a few hens.

Whatever "it" is "it" hit our property that hard and that fast, I have my opinion on what "it" is, but there are 2 things I CAN guarantee, "it" wasn't a 4 bird limit, nor a fall season.