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Match chamber speculation in Remington 541 rifles

Wiley

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There is no record, ZERO, records proper of Remington specifying and cutting 'match' chambers in their 541 series of 22lr chambered rifles. BUT, there are a bunch of folks that claim they are match and others that claim the term 'match chamber' didn't even exist in the era of these production rifles. Those that claim there are match chambers specifically call out the S rifles and also say the the T does not. I've read that the S rifles engrave the bullet when chambered but that the T rifle does not. I had to know.......

So, I took it upon myself to make a layman's comparison. I currently have two 541S rifles, one of which is NIB and unfired and anther that I call my 'shooter'. I also have a 541T HB that is new/unfired (no box) and a 541T Sporter that is lightly used. I have another 541T Sporter that I'm anxious to pick up tomorrow. Using a new round of Lapua Midas+ for each rifle I chambered and withdrew the bolt on each one. Both S models engraved the bullet and the NIB unfired rifle seems to be engraving quite a bit more than my shooter rifle. Neither of the T rifles engraved the bullet at all. Also of note on the T models is that the HB has a date code of July 1982 and has the small wood screw in the center of the bottom metal. The T Sporter has a date code of November 1985 and has the 2nd, larger head action screw in the middle of the bottom metal where the other one has the smaller diameter head wood screw. All 4 rifles have the 3 screw triggers and 3 have been worked by Brian Voelker. The other is the T Sporter and I have adjusted it down to a decent pull of about 17oz but it's still not a Voelker trigger.

So, are the S chambers that engrave the bullet with the leade actually match chambers before that term came into usage? I reckon that's up to each of us to have our own opinion on BUT that is the accepted layman's way of looking for a match chamber these days.....

Now if I could have those T barrels cut back at the breech just enough to engrave...... calling Mr. Voelker..... ;)
 
I don't know, but a "match chamber" can/will pull the bullet out of the case if you try to eject a live round....or so I've been told. Never tried it...just loaded what I intended to shoot.
Maybe @MUP will chime in and clarify.
 
Maybe those were match barrels of the day! They shoot good enough to be right!?
I'm still tweaking a little but yes, they dang sure shoot great! Under 1/2" at 50 yards if I do my part with SK Standard+ or Lapua Midas+.

I like the looks of the 541T better than the S and I'm seriously thinking about sending the T rifles to Brian Voelker for his accurizing job and I don't even know what all it entails beyond the 2nd action screw added and one of my Ts already has it. He IS the premier 541 gunsmith though.
 
They can catch in the leade and definitely pull a bullet out of the case if you try to eject it without firing. That's my interpretation of a match barrel these days also. Maybe those were match barrels of the day! They shoot good enough to be right!?

The Lilja bbl on my CZ 455 is a Match chamber, it won't pull the bullet from the case of you try to unload without shooting it but the extractor will rip part of the rim off the case and the whole shell stays in the bbl. You have to then close the bolt and shoot it to get the case out
 
 
That's a nice specimen and the price is where it should be, IMHO.
 

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