NCAA athletes profit

[RobbyW]

What are your thoughts on the NCAA ruling athletes can now profit from their likeness.

I think this helps the rich get richer. Kids now will go to the schools that they have a better chance to get their faces out there. I understand the players side. Schools make millions off these kids. I know the argument is they are getting a scholarship for a free education but athletes can not get a summer job or work after class. On a smaller scale that's like you getting a 4 year apprenticeship and not getting paid, while your boss makes millions off your work.

 

[gator-n-buck]

Pandora's Box..... I'm sure Saban's car lots will be hiring new employees soon. I'm sure there's some oil wells that need to be monitored in Texas and Oklahoma. Brian Bosworth had that job in college.... :rotf:

 

[TDW05]

If they wanted to make money they should have went straight to the workforce. Plenty of kids would kill to be playing college ball. I'd rather see kids that weren't as good playing their hearts out every weekend then to keep putting out these ungrateful money hungry idiots who don't care about anything besides the money.

 

[huntinkev]

Big Mistake!

They should get rid of athletic scholorships, free meal plans, free clothes, free housing, free gifts at bowl games, etc. Yes they work hard but they have a lot of perks your average student does not have. If they get paid then make them pay for their education just like your average student that is working and going to school, paying for education, food, housing, clothes, etc.

This will only help the really successful schools to even more monopolize the recruiting and will create even less competition in College ball. I think this will be the beginning of the end of College ball. I love College ball for the players passion for the game not because they are out there making money. You start paying them like NFL and it will become all about the money.

 

[TDW05]

Big Mistake!

They should get rid of athletic scholorships, free meal plans, free clothes, free housing, free gifts at bowl games, etc. Yes they work hard but they have a lot of perks your average student does not have. If they get paid then make them pay for their education just like your average student that is working and going to school, paying for education, food, housing, clothes, etc.

This will only help the really successful schools to even more monopolize the recruiting and will create even less competition in College ball. I think this will be the beginning of the end of College ball. I love College ball for the players passion for the game not because they are out there making money. You start paying them like NFL and it will become all about the money.

Bingo! I could see it being more acceptable if they paid for there schooling with the money.

 

[TreyB]

Big Mistake!

They should get rid of athletic scholorships, free meal plans, free clothes, free housing, free gifts at bowl games, etc. Yes they work hard but they have a lot of perks your average student does not have. If they get paid then make them pay for their education just like your average student that is working and going to school, paying for education, food, housing, clothes, etc.

This will only help the really successful schools to even more monopolize the recruiting and will create even less competition in College ball. I think this will be the beginning of the end of College ball. I love College ball for the players passion for the game not because they are out there making money. You start paying them like NFL and it will become all about the money.

Agree!

 

[PillsburyDoughboy]

Its been going on for years...just handled under the table. This just cuts out alot of the red tape.

 

[PalsPal]

Its been going on for years...just handled under the table. This just cuts out alot of the red tape.

Spot on !


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[gator-n-buck]

Its been going on for years...just handled under the table. This just cuts out alot of the red tape.

Yep, no more straw purchasing Dodger Chargers and SUVs in Bama..... :mrgreen:

 

[BamaProud]

I think the Major League Baseball model is the solution. Let athletes go pro whenever they want too and teams are willing to sign them no matter their age or how long they went to college. There is no requirement for the best businessmen, actors, musicians, plumbers etc... to spend XX numbers of years in a college before making money at their trade, why should athletes be any different?

Very few athletes (like Lebron James) would be capable of performing as a pro right out of high school, just as very few athletes could legitimately make money off their likeness/image out of high school. But when you develop the talent/make a name for yourself you should have the option to turn pro rather than make money off it as a college athlete. As a side note, lot of these football/basketball players shouldn't even be in college. Why shouldn't an elite athlete who just happens to be dumb as a rock be able to seek professional training for a year or two and join the NFL?

 

[gator-n-buck]

I just hope that they bring back NCAA College Football.... :tu:

 

[beefydeer]

Its been going on for years...just handled under the table. This just cuts out alot of the red tape.

This. Athletes are getting paid in high school by colleges that want them. Been happening at least 30 years. My uncle coached at the high school where a now NFL Hall of Famer played at. He was getting PAID big bucks in high school by the college he played for.

 

[huntinkev]

I think the Major League Baseball model is the solution. Let athletes go pro whenever they want too and teams are willing to sign them no matter their age or how long they went to college. There is no requirement for the best businessmen, actors, musicians, plumbers etc... to spend XX numbers of years in a college before making money at their trade, why should athletes be any different?

Very few athletes (like Lebron James) would be capable of performing as a pro right out of high school, just as very few athletes could legitimately make money off their likeness/image out of high school. But when you develop the talent/make a name for yourself you should have the option to turn pro rather than make money off it as a college athlete. As a side note, lot of these football/basketball players shouldn't even be in college. Why shouldn't an elite athlete who just happens to be dumb as a rock be able to seek professional training for a year or two and join the NFL?

I see your point but I think why football is different than basketball and baseball is the physical aspect of it. I don't think any kid coming out of highschool is physically ready to play in the NFL. They would get killed. I think it takes a couple years of college ball, workout regiment, etc. to get their bodies physically ready.

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[RobbyW]

Big Mistake!

They should get rid of athletic scholorships, free meal plans, free clothes, free housing, free gifts at bowl games, etc. Yes they work hard but they have a lot of perks your average student does not have. If they get paid then make them pay for their education just like your average student that is working and going to school, paying for education, food, housing, clothes, etc.

This will only help the really successful schools to even more monopolize the recruiting and will create even less competition in College ball. I think this will be the beginning of the end of College ball. I love College ball for the players passion for the game not because they are out there making money. You start paying them like NFL and it will become all about the money.

The big difference is that average students do not put themselves in the same harm as athletes.

 

[PillsburyDoughboy]

Its been going on for years...just handled under the table. This just cuts out alot of the red tape.

Yep, no more straw purchasing Dodger Chargers and SUVs in Bama..... :mrgreen:

You don't know the trouble and red tape Nick has to go through on this. LOL

 

[bobbuck]

I think it was the right thing to do. If you are a great athlete and the school/league is profiting off your name/likeness the athlete absolutely should get compensation. Think of what UTK has made from Peyton's likeness. It should have been done long ago. I will go a step further and say that any school that can pay a coach more than 1 million a year need to compensate the players first and the coach second. If a school cannot afford to pay then they need to eliminate that sport from the program or pay their coach less than a million. We are a capitalist society still and college sports is a huge multi billion $ organization that should compensate the ones making them the money.

 

[Crow Terminator]

The term "student athlete" has an interesting and crooked history (in my opinion). Especially as it deals with the case of Ray Dennison, and was coined by the NCAA after his wife tried to get death benefits after her husband's death that came from a head injury playing football for A&M. He died 30 or so hours after being injured in the game. This went all the way to the supreme court and the family got squat, and the "student athlete" term was born out of that case to cover the rear ends of the NCAA for not having to pay benefits and such for players and or their families in the event of injury or death in games. Games that generate 100s of millions of dollars in school revenue every year.

 

[Dully]

I'm hopeful that since none of this is going to go into effect until 2023, the details can be worked out. I have no problem with these young adults making money off their name, image, and likeness. All the other adults are, why can't they? Most who post on TN Deer are Republicans, capitalists, etc. If someone can make money off their name, image, or likeness why should being an athlete be a hindrance? It shouldn't. Yes, they get a lot of other valuable benefits, but they can't even work a job without the NCAA calling foul.

The devil will be in the details. My concerns are two-fold. First, only the best of the best will make any money. No business is going to pay the long snapper, the second team nose tackle or even the first team nose tackle, the punter, etc. to be able to license their name or likeness. It's going to be 2023's Chase Young, Tua, Joe Burrow, Jake Fromm, Justin Herbert, etc. How will this impact team chemistry? Second, this will be one more item of administrative/compliance BS that coaches will have to deal with the school compliance office. Yes, these guys are paid very well, at least at the top programs. Unless you like to travel away from your family, fly commercial all the time, and live a stressful life, being an FBS coach of any sport is a really hard job. Everyone has a final straw. I see more than a few HCs and assistants at top FBS programs saying enough, I'm going to the NFL. I might have to sleep at the office August to January, but at least I can have a family life the rest of the year. I might have to move to different cities every 2-3 years, but I'm doing that now and I won't have all this administrative crap to contend with. Believe me, the administrative crap just sucks the life out of you.

. I'm a republican and proud of it,what's that got to do with college sports arty:

 

[Displaced_Vol]

The term "student athlete" has an interesting and crooked history (in my opinion). Especially as it deals with the case of Ray Dennison, and was coined by the NCAA after his wife tried to get death benefits after her husband's death that came from a head injury playing football for A&M. He died 30 or so hours after being injured in the game. This went all the way to the supreme court and the family got squat, and the "student athlete" term was born out of that case to cover the rear ends of the NCAA for not having to pay benefits and such for players and or their families in the event of injury or death in games. Games that generate 100s of millions of dollars in school revenue every year.

Wow I hadn't ever heard that story I'm going to look that up. I've not heard any of the talking heads bring it up before. Good intel Crow Terminator.

Haven't read every post yet but I think I am OK with it. Heard lots of talk about "how do you make sure players are paid fairly" and I think this is about as "fair" (for lack of a better term) as it gets. The market will determine based on how you perform. I remember a story about a kid making money off a YouTube channel a couple years ago who had to forfeit all his profits. Who gives a sh!t if he can still play at a high enough level, take care of school & decides to do that with his free time? More power to him for earning a dollar.

In a weird way I think this could actually bring a bit more parity.... I see a huge gap between the top 5-6 (maybe less) and the rest of the country. That's been pretty consistent throughout the entire era of the playoff.
Plenty of schools have big time boosters. You're only going to get so much $ for facility improvements (and under the table payments if we're being honest). Now, Big Booster who wasn't going to pony up 2 mil for the second new weight room in the last 10 years will be more apt to open up the check book to have the entire defensive line be in ads for his home security company or one of his dealerships. Schools with big boosters will have the entire 2-Deep covered if I had to guess.

To be clear I am not one who was crying the blues about this though. There are plenty of perks to being a college athlete and the better you are, the better the perks. Most of these full rides are good for life (unless I'm mistaken) so as somebody who had student loans I think there is damn sure some value to them in this current deal. Plus, outside of a few exceptions, this has worked pretty well for thousands of athletes over the last 100 years that ended up in the NFL.

But again, I am fine with it, it was probably inevitable either way.