I may be a little late posting but its worth a shot, I wouldn't go out there expecting to wear them out but on occasion have had some good days, if you want to fish for them try the part of the creek at Thrasher Pike right before you go over the train tracks and id go up Frontage Rd a little to the first curve where that little creek runs into North Chick its a deep hole with some logs and usually IF and thats a BIG IF they're still in there it would be a good starting point