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Oklahoma to combat CWD by releasing Captive deer

AlabamaSwamper said:
Of course it was and still is

But deer riding in the back of trucks from Midwest states contributed to the spread in most areas.

Captive deer started it but hunters spread it way more than deer breeders.
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I'm guessing it was just a coincidence that CWD showed up in multiple states within a few miles of deer farms?
 
scn said:
I'm guessing it was just a coincidence that CWD showed up in multiple states within a few miles of deer farms?
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I doubt it
But there isn't any close to the positives in Alabama. Is there known positives in West Tennessee in high fences? I have no idea. Was high fenced deer released somewhere over there?

I know there isn't any high fences in Nebraska close to where we hunt but CWD has been there for 25 years in that area.
 
BSK said:
With so little data and time to observe negative effects, releasing genetically modified deer into the wild is the kind of scientific hubris and arrogance that brought is Covid 19.
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What is an acceptable time-line? At what point is enough research enough? Who establishes the standards, and how?

I don't think releasing captive deer is a good idea. But what is the worst possible unintended consequence? Releasing an unliving, immortal, 100% fatal contagion that resides in the soil for eternity?

I don't know what approach is best. But every advancement comes from taking a risk to experiment. Sure there are some failures and outright disasters when the risks are realized. But there are also critical successes. We don't really know until after the fact how things will turn out. At this point I don't necessarily feel CWD is advancing rapidly enough to warrant extreme risk countermeasures, but I also am not sure exactly where that point is. To me this seems like a second down hail Mary when there's reasonable chance at a goal in the third down. But I'm not the coach.
 
AlabamaSwamper said:
I doubt it
But there isn't any close to the positives in Alabama. Is there known positives in West Tennessee in high fences? I have no idea. Was high fenced deer released somewhere over there?

I know there isn't any high fences in Nebraska close to where we hunt but CWD has been there for 25 years in that area.
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THe outbreak in West, TN occurred near Ames and a couple of high fence places. I've heard the finger pointed at both. I've heard someone say they know exactly where/how it started, but no one really names any names, places, or people. Also haven't heard if CWD spread into the high fence places. Someone else on here might know.
 
Nature will figure it out. There is nothing man will do but make problems worse. We have an absolute record of doing that. No easy fix's and no short answers to the problem. I would say before they go and release them. They certainly should do a controlled study some how. Might take several years of data. But once released you don't want even worse problems. Now released into the wild deer herd. No coming back after the fact I wouldn't think.
 
BigAl said:
THe outbreak in West, TN occurred near Ames and a couple of high fence places. I've heard the finger pointed at both. I've heard someone say they know exactly where/how it started, but no one really names any names, places, or people. Also haven't heard if CWD spread into the high fence places. Someone else on here might know.
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I've heard the same thing Big Al. The state knows who but the individuals since died and they didn't want to go after the descendants. It wasn't Ames for sure but near Ames. That's all I know. Water under the bridge now.

Years ago before anyone knew any better, it was believed herd dynamics could be improved by introducing big antlered genetics and some were willing to spend the money to find out. Sad we all have to suffer now.
 
I may be wrong and I'm sure it's much more difficult to combat due the way it spreads, but I feel we should focus more efforts on EHD and not CWD. Seems to be a more intense, lethal, and more spread than CWD.
 
Releasing captive deer into the wild to combat CWD? What a genius idea.

Maybe next they'll release pen-raised mallards to combat avian flu.

"science", huh? Like was mentioned above, I bet you could find some "good ol boy" relationships between legislators and deer breeders if you dug enough. Maybe even some campaign contributions.
 
the only high fence i've heard of in west TN is "The Zoo" in Grand Junction. i know very very little about it but believe it is around 2000 acres which is not far as a crow flies to ames plantation. since most people attribute ames to be the epicenter of cwd in west TN, is it reasonable to conclude that this high fence played a part in that outbreak? i'm sure this question could be posed in a better way just throwing that out there for discussion...

as for this thread topic...i agree with a previous post of there having to be money swapping hands and winding up in the pockets of deer breeding. if this was sound science then why would someone not want to test this on a small scale to see its safety & efficacy over whatever is considered a reasonable time period, then figure out a way to implement the findings (assuming successful and safe) to the cwd affected areas.

my overall thought is that people are trying to be God here and the results likely won't be good.
 

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