Our turkey maybe in more trouble than we think

[Spurhunter]

there is no 'biological carrying capacity' for turkeys in the traditional sense of population dynamics (especially when compared to mammalian species). Due to turkey's adaptive diet, they can survive (and thrive) on more varied food sources than any mammal could ever hope to. Sure, there eventually becomes a carrying capacity when the population becomes so ridiculously large (which we have never, nor will probably ever see) for turkeys, but the social carrying capacity will FAR be exceeded before even remotely approaching the biological carrying capacity.

Again, food is not the only limiting factor in carrying capacity. Free country, so believe what makes you happy, but I'd bet most trained biologists across the country would agree that turkeys do have a carrying capacity.

You aren't listening or comprehending. We aren't saying there isn't a carrying capacity. We're saying it's so far out of reach we'll never see it. It's not a concern. Worrying about turkeys exceeding carrying capacity is like worrying about having too much money. It ain't happening.

 

[deerchaser007]

there is no 'biological carrying capacity' for turkeys in the traditional sense of population dynamics (especially when compared to mammalian species). Due to turkey's adaptive diet, they can survive (and thrive) on more varied food sources than any mammal could ever hope to. Sure, there eventually becomes a carrying capacity when the population becomes so ridiculously large (which we have never, nor will probably ever see) for turkeys, but the social carrying capacity will FAR be exceeded before even remotely approaching the biological carrying capacity.

Again, food is not the only limiting factor in carrying capacity. Free country, so believe what makes you happy, but I'd bet most trained biologists across the country would agree that turkeys do have a carrying capacity.

You aren't listening or comprehending. We aren't saying there isn't a carrying capacity. We're saying it's so far out of reach we'll never see it. It's not a concern. Worrying about turkeys exceeding carrying capacity is like worrying about having too much money. It ain't happening.

These gentlemen are correct, there is no known biological carrying capacity for the wild turkey on the north american continent. Read any scientific study conducted, any state studies, no matter were you look, there has never been proven a BCC. If someone tells you differ, they don't know what there talking about. If TWRA claims they know, then they need to release a study that has NEVER been proven since every state in the US restocked and rebuilt the population the past 100 years.The only time BCC is believed to be reached is during summer months, per Clemson university research. Social carrying capacity in TN must be 5 birds PSM.

 

[Roost 1]

It's all about the habitat...... Where do gobblers come from??? HENS, no hens , no gobblers it's that simple!!!!

 

[woodsman87]

It's all about the habitat...... Where do gobblers come from??? HENS, no hens , no gobblers it's that simple!!!!

Habitat creates nest, nest make poults, poults make gobblers.

Create habitat. Better hatches means more birds.





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[woodsman87]

there is no 'biological carrying capacity' for turkeys in the traditional sense of population dynamics (especially when compared to mammalian species). Due to turkey's adaptive diet, they can survive (and thrive) on more varied food sources than any mammal could ever hope to. Sure, there eventually becomes a carrying capacity when the population becomes so ridiculously large (which we have never, nor will probably ever see) for turkeys, but the social carrying capacity will FAR be exceeded before even remotely approaching the biological carrying capacity.

Again, food is not the only limiting factor in carrying capacity. Free country, so believe what makes you happy, but I'd bet most trained biologists across the country would agree that turkeys do have a carrying capacity.

You aren't listening or comprehending. We aren't saying there isn't a carrying capacity. We're saying it's so far out of reach we'll never see it. It's not a concern. Worrying about turkeys exceeding carrying capacity is like worrying about having too much money. It ain't happening.

These gentlemen are correct, there is no known biological carrying capacity for the wild turkey on the north american continent. Read any scientific study conducted, any state studies, no matter were you look, there has never been proven a BCC. If someone tells you differ, they don't know what there talking about. If TWRA claims they know, then they need to release a study that has NEVER been proven since every state in the US restocked and rebuilt the population the past 100 years.The only time BCC is believed to be reached is during summer months, per Clemson university research. Social carrying capacity in TN must be 5 birds PSM.

I wish we could get 5per square mile. In my area it is zero.





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