(public land) Calling from the Roads

[REN]

Laziest crap a person can do, educates birds badly, and generally is low class. Period. No different then riding atv's and doing the same thing.

If the ATV folks only knew how many birds they drive by, and how many hunters they screw up they might quit. Nevermind, those folks don't care about others.

hahah i knew it wouldnt take long!

 

[Setterman]

Laziest crap a person can do, educates birds badly, and generally is low class. Period. No different then riding atv's and doing the same thing.

If the ATV folks only knew how many birds they drive by, and how many hunters they screw up they might quit. Nevermind, those folks don't care about others.

hahah i knew it wouldnt take long!

This is a major pet peeve of mine. Nothing, and I mean nothing will change my opinion of the above. One of the lowest forms of hunting there is, and just down right lazy.

 

[catman529]

setterman I'm going to blow my Primos power crow out the car window on opening morning just for you

kidding aside I would rather call in the woods but I'm just starting out so I can't have much say on the matter.

 

[Andy S.]

What's the difference if he gobbled to a real owl/crow or to me, as long as he gobbled to something ?

I was mainly talking about the difference in a turkey that is gobbling on his own or in response to a hen call of some sort, whether it be real or another hunter. I have seen numerous gobblers being worked and gobbling in response to a "hen call" only to be shut down by a hunter repeatedly blowing a locator call. I'm not saying that is always the case, just my experience. Another bigger difference for me over the past 10 years has been my success rate with ones that gobbled "on their own" versus ones I have had to "pull" a gobble out of. Just my preference here, but I will take the former scenario every time as I have had lot better odds killing those birds.

 

[Blount County Hunter]

Laziest crap a person can do, educates birds badly, and generally is low class. Period. No different then riding atv's and doing the same thing.

If the ATV folks only knew how many birds they drive by, and how many hunters they screw up they might quit. Nevermind, those folks don't care about others.

hahah i knew it wouldnt take long!

Setterman, that is so funny but true at the same time, my neighbor hunts turkey a lot and it seems everytime he hears me calling he will drive his atv up and down the ridge on the property line, seems like he is trying to scare birds away from me because he is selfish and wants them all to himself

 

[cruff10]

Ok, where I hunt is a lot different that others. You can not hear a bird unless it is right on top of you. We have many deep hollers, and pointy ridges that birds are just on the other side mountain, if you don't get on that side you are not going to hear him. The only way to to ride or drive to them.

I hunt mountain birds, not field birds or hunt in a place where you can hear a bird from a mile a way and go to him.

It is not lazy, it is a different area where I hunt at.

If a bird is not gobbling I'm not waiting in a place where he is not.

For instance this is how I hunt.

Get on 4 wheeler, drive to a point of a ridge, Hoot, hear nothing, crow, hear nothing, then try to call, if I hear a bird then I have something to work with, if not I will go anywhere from 100 yards to 1/2 mile to the next ridge. I may stay at that ridge for 30 minutes or less, If nothing is willing to gobble or respond then why stay?

We don't hunt where birds are by the 1000s. We have to search all day to find a bird. We have a ratio of about 20 hens to one gobbler.

So yes when driving 60 miles a day to find that one lonely gobbler is not lazy.

Try and go with me one day hunt from daylight to dark. You will be tired. I may go after 2 birds a day, If one bird don't work well, after an hour I may go and try another.

Once again, I'm not going to Deer hunt a bird. I'm not going to set hours upon hours for something that could not be there.

The pro's will even tell you, don't stay at the bird to long when a bird at the next ridge could be willing to come on in.

I think the opposite of a lot of the comments on here. You say that I don't know how many birds I've missed.

I'm going to say you don't know how many birds you all have missed that stay working at a bird or setting in one spot all day, or walking either.

Besides even if I don't do any good, I have spent all day in the outdoors on a GREAT 4 wheeler ride.

IMOH this is the only way to turkey hunt.

Will I run over a turkey hunter? One time in 10 years only because I was going to a bird he was calling to. And I walked to him.

The way that I turkey hunt is not just simply running a 4 wheeler all day. It has become a skilled way of turkey hunting. We have learned things of when to turn the 4 wheeler off to coast down a hill to be quite, or when to stop and walk to the point of a ridge to keep the noise of the 4 wheeler from going around ridge and spooking birds.

Before you judge on how "LAZY" it is you need to realize that it is very successfully way of hunting birds..and I guarantee that I will have more fun than sitting in a blind Deer hunting birds.

 

[WRbowhunter]

You go cruff!!!!

I'm not much into sitting on the ground waiting on turkeys either. Did enough of that during deer season.

 

[REN]

i dont hunt public land or ever get on a 4wheeler during turkey season so i have no dog in this hunt, however i can see both sides and tend to lean to settermans on the public land aspect.

IMO doing my daily 3-6mile walk in a day is part of the hunt i love. Just walking around and enjoying what nature has to offer. again I dont do much on public land so i cant really say why or what people should or shouldnt be doing out there.

 

[Blount County Hunter]

i dont hunt public land or ever get on a 4wheeler during turkey season so i have no dog in this hunt, however i can see both sides and tend to lean to settermans on the public land aspect.

IMO doing my daily 3-6mile walk in a day is part of the hunt i love. Just walking around and enjoying what nature has to offer. again I dont do much on public land so i cant really say why or what people should or shouldnt be doing out there.

I honestly think you would hear more walking all day, then riding a atv all day anyday of the week, and you couldn't pick morel mushrooms from an atv either lol

 

[ROUGH COUNTRY HUNTER]

good way to locate them

 

[Setterman]

Ok, where I hunt is a lot different that others. You can not hear a bird unless it is right on top of you. We have many deep hollers, and pointy ridges that birds are just on the other side mountain, if you don't get on that side you are not going to hear him. The only way to to ride or drive to them.

I hunt mountain birds, not field birds or hunt in a place where you can hear a bird from a mile a way and go to him.

It is not lazy, it is a different area where I hunt at.

If a bird is not gobbling I'm not waiting in a place where he is not.

For instance this is how I hunt.

Get on 4 wheeler, drive to a point of a ridge, Hoot, hear nothing, crow, hear nothing, then try to call, if I hear a bird then I have something to work with, if not I will go anywhere from 100 yards to 1/2 mile to the next ridge. I may stay at that ridge for 30 minutes or less, If nothing is willing to gobble or respond then why stay?

We don't hunt where birds are by the 1000s. We have to search all day to find a bird. We have a ratio of about 20 hens to one gobbler.

So yes when driving 60 miles a day to find that one lonely gobbler is not lazy.

Try and go with me one day hunt from daylight to dark. You will be tired. I may go after 2 birds a day, If one bird don't work well, after an hour I may go and try another.

Once again, I'm not going to Deer hunt a bird. I'm not going to set hours upon hours for something that could not be there.

The pro's will even tell you, don't stay at the bird to long when a bird at the next ridge could be willing to come on in.

I think the opposite of a lot of the comments on here. You say that I don't know how many birds I've missed.

I'm going to say you don't know how many birds you all have missed that stay working at a bird or setting in one spot all day, or walking either.

Besides even if I don't do any good, I have spent all day in the outdoors on a GREAT 4 wheeler ride.

IMOH this is the only way to turkey hunt.

Will I run over a turkey hunter? One time in 10 years only because I was going to a bird he was calling to. And I walked to him.

The way that I turkey hunt is not just simply running a 4 wheeler all day. It has become a skilled way of turkey hunting. We have learned things of when to turn the 4 wheeler off to coast down a hill to be quite, or when to stop and walk to the point of a ridge to keep the noise of the 4 wheeler from going around ridge and spooking birds.

Before you judge on how "LAZY" it is you need to realize that it is very successfully way of hunting birds..and I guarantee that I will have more fun than sitting in a blind Deer hunting birds.

I literally hunt the exact same places you do, we went through this last year if you don't remember. Not just the same county, but literally the exact same mountain. And if you think I sit in a blind then you need to read more about my style.

I am sure you are one of the many I hear roar over head each spring who drive right past birds, or bump birds as you jump from place to place.

I love the calling cadences I hear each time as well. Hoot hoot hoot....2 second silence. Caw caw caw.....2 second silence. Yawk Yawk Yawk....2 second silence. Frooooooooom......off to the next spot. Thinking about it makes me chuckle.

I seem to remember last year laying the wood to a bunch of longbeards from your area which had been shut up by ATV's earlier in the day.

Before you get on your soap box, keep in mind who all you are talking too.

You claim there aren't 1000's of birds, well there may not be thousands, but there is an absolute ton. The reason you feel there aren't many is so many shut up because of your tactics and techniques. It is nothing to kill turkeys in that part of the world, literally nothing. In fact, they are some of the easier turkeys to kill IMO in this state. The hard ones live in the broken woodlots, and western TN creek bottoms. These mountain birds are pretty stupid most of the time. Hence the reason some fall for hearing an ATV motor up, and not spooking. However, for every one that responds, 50 go silent for minutes or even hours.

Try walking, it is enjoyable, and does far less to ruin other folks hunts.

One last thing, I have no issue with someone using an ATV to get into an area, then spending their hunt walking. However, the hop scotching/locating is total BS and is the height of laziness IMO. Not to mention incredibly disturbing to the people you share the woods with.

"A skilled way of turkey hunting", now that is quote of the year thus far.