turkeyhuntr4 said:
Very nice. I did not know that.
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Very nice. I did not know that.
TnTurk
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I have used this scope in the past and it has performed flawlessly. I would recommend it, especially for the price. Plus, it has 6" of eye relief.
http://www.opticsplanet.com/bush-rs-bnr-711436.html
http://www.opticsplanet.com/bush-rs-bnr-711436.html
TheLBLman
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I agree, but would add better shells may be as or more important than a different choke.deerhunter10 said:
One of the disadvantages of super-tight turkey chokes is greater opportunity for a total miss at the more typical range of 35 yards (or less) which seems to the range a majority of turkeys are fired upon.
I would highly recommend a novice turkey hunter to consider the merits of using "heavier than lead" (HTL) #7 sized shot (in any choke) as an alternative to super-tight "turkey" chokes. A factory "full" or even a "modified" choke can be deadly at 35 to 40 yards, while not shooting as much like a rifle at under 30 yards ---- this can become particularly appealing to those who do not have an optical sight on their "turkey" gun.
For those who just have a "shotgun" but would like to take up turkey hunting, and provided your current modified or full choke is not vented, I'd highly recommend your trying the Federal Heavyweight Turkey Shells in #7, without your needing a specialized gun or choke. These particular #7 pellets pack a punch comparable to a #5 lead, while providing greater pattern density than #6 lead.
I've been using a scope for several years. I have a Leupold NWTF Edition 2-7x33 Turkey Plex. I love a scope on my turkey gun. Some folks love them, some folks hate them. It's all personal preference. I shoot a tight pattern and I know if his head is in that circle, it's game over.
deerhunter10
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I agree wes a good shell and choke combo is imo one of the best things you can do for a turkey gun. bunch of different chokes opinions out there but imo the only shells I will buy is magnum blends or nitros.
I won't own a turkey gun without a scope. With the super tight patterns and my less than perfect eyes, a scope is a must. The one I use is a leupold 1.5-4x20. It's on an 870 shooting 3.5 hevis, and I have never been hit by the scope. Several of my shots have been at awkward angles as well.
TheLBLman
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The only thing I would say differently is in substituting "optical sight" for scope. Just for shooting precision, I prefer a traditional "scope", but any optical sight offers better aiming precision than either "open sights" or a shotgun "bead".ruger7mag said:
My favorite turkey "scope" is also a low-profile 20mm objective one, which doesn't stick up as high as the "red dot" scopes, but it not as low-profile as the Burris Fastfire reflex sight. Mainly because my lightweight 20 ga is topped with a Fastfire, I'll likely see more turkeys falling to the less favored sight in the future.
Wes Parrish said:The only thing I would say differently is in substituting "optical sight" for scope. Just for shooting precision, I prefer a traditional "scope", but any optical sight offers better aiming precision than either "open sights" or a shotgun "bead".ruger7mag said:
My favorite turkey "scope" is also a low-profile 20mm objective one, which doesn't stick up as high as the "red dot" scopes, but it not as low-profile as the Burris Fastfire reflex sight. Mainly because my lightweight 20 ga is topped with a Fastfire, I'll likely see more turkeys falling to the less favored sight in the future.
Yes, I agree that any optical sight offers more precision than open sights. The benefits of an optical sight outweigh the negatives by far IMO. Before going to a scope, I missed SEVERAL birds. Now if I squeeze the trigger on one, more than likely he is about to fall over.
Just put a red dot on my Mossberg yesterday. I think I am going to like it as long as the batteries dont leave me hanging on a gobbler 
TheLBLman
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I've heard of that happening several times.timberjack86 said:. . . . think I am going to like it as long as the batteries dont leave me hanging on a gobbler
Needing no batteries is one of the reasons I prefer a traditional scope.
Friend of mine missed a bird with his open sights, and was quick to go get a red dot to help with his aiming. Very first longbeard he called in, the dot fading away as the bird was coming into range. He ended up getting that bird, but only on the 3rd shot, and by "guessing" where the dot should be. He put a regular scope on after that.
Can also have the issue of not being able to see the dot in bright light.
timberjack86 said:Just put a red dot on my Mossberg yesterday. I think I am going to like it as long as the batteries dont leave me hanging on a gobbler
if you get a good one like a FF3 it should not be an issue. Those have a battery life of like 10,000 hours so even if left on my mistake for a week it should be more then fine for a season. I replace mine every spring and have never had a issue. Im going to do more testing on mine in a few days while duck hunting and see how long i can leave it on before it fades out.
TheRealSpurhunter
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Red dot of some kind is the best option for any turkey gun. It allows you precis shot placement on tight shooting patterns with a parallax free aiming point. You cannot get this using any magnified optics.
TheRealSpurhunter
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smstone22 said:
The exact reason to switch to a red dot of some kind. Any turkey hunter knows how you can get pinned down with a bird looking right at you in the wrong moment, a red dot is your best friend in this case. As long as you can get the dot on the bird, the point of impact is on, if you have a magnified optic, you MUST be lined up properly behind the scope for your point of impact to be correct, as well as avoid getting cut from your scope.
TheLBLman
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IMO, the issue of parallax is an overstated problem on a hunting scope. My Nikon Monarch 1.5-4.5 x 20mm "traditional" scope is parallax-free at 50 yards. I normally have it set on 1.5, and see little difference in either advantage or disadvantage with this scope vs. my Burris FastFire ---- I like them both. Like the Nikon better for shooting; like the FastFire better for carrying.
Most rifle scopes are factory set to be parallax free at 100 yards. The Leupold "turkey" shotgun scope is factory set parallax free at 40 yards, meaning from any off-set angle, the point-of-impact will be spot on (at 40 yards) with the crosshairs. Parallax is more an issue with long-range shooting.
I know some highly accomplished avid squirrel hunters (like Redblood) who regularly kill a limit of 10 squirrels using a 100-yd parallax-free rifle scope on their .22 rifles, average squirrel maybe being at 25 yards.
Most rifle scopes are factory set to be parallax free at 100 yards. The Leupold "turkey" shotgun scope is factory set parallax free at 40 yards, meaning from any off-set angle, the point-of-impact will be spot on (at 40 yards) with the crosshairs. Parallax is more an issue with long-range shooting.
I know some highly accomplished avid squirrel hunters (like Redblood) who regularly kill a limit of 10 squirrels using a 100-yd parallax-free rifle scope on their .22 rifles, average squirrel maybe being at 25 yards.
skillet
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You are going to find arguments for both sides on this issue. It all comes down to personal preference. What gives YOU the most confidence, the most comfort, and the overall best chance. If you are worried about a scope popping you in the eye every time you pull the trigger chances are you're gonna pull the shot and miss. I suggest(if you can) shoot a bunch of rounds with and without a scope. Get into "turkey hunt" positions and see how it feels. I do have to agree with Wes and others about the importance of chokes and ammo. These two are a more deadly combo than any optic and gun.
TheRealSpurhunter
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Here it a couple pics of the optic I use, its a True Glo they don't make any longer. They do make a close version of it though.
(picture credit goes to Rsimms)
(picture credit goes to Rsimms)
TheRealSpurhunter
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Wes Parrish said:
I hope your not comparing the difficulty of hunting squirrels with turkeys?
Parallax is not an issue when you have the time and ability to properly align yourself with the reticle and intended target.
Its just a cheap bsa. I will look into the FF3 for sure. I didn't come this far to missREN said:timberjack86 said:Just put a red dot on my Mossberg yesterday. I think I am going to like it as long as the batteries dont leave me hanging on a gobbler
if you get a good one like a FF3 it should not be an issue. Those have a battery life of like 10,000 hours so even if left on my mistake for a week it should be more then fine for a season. I replace mine every spring and have never had a issue. Im going to do more testing on mine in a few days while duck hunting and see how long i can leave it on before it fades out.
