Seek One knocks down a TN stud!!

[Antler Daddy]

I got a chance to meet Lee a few weeks ago at GA deer show. He showed up to watch the truck shootoff. He was very gracious to me my15 year old kids and was impressed by my son's 150 inch 8 pt buck taken on public.

These guys are well spoken and represent hunting will in my opinion. This is the future of more bowhunting whether we like it or not. Tyler Jordan was a smart man to partner with them recently. I would expect them to develop a new elite suburban camo line that is more akin to Kuiu and FirstLite vs. the everyman realtree camo. Just a guess...that is what I would do.

 

[Antler Daddy]

So the accomplishment is getting permission to kill a pet? Not hunting a wary wild animal?

Hmmm, color me NOT impressed.

I would say it is both the permission and the animal. These are not deer in confined fences. These deer deserve to die, be honored, and eaten the same as any deer living on your 500 acres.

I drive through a lot of the places where these deer live in a hodge podge of 1-50 acre suburban and city lots. I am telling you that it is not much different than driving through Leoma TN and nobody will think twice about killing a deer on a small woodlot there.

 

[BSK]

I would say it is both the permission and the animal. These are not deer in confined fences. These deer deserve to die, be honored, and eaten the same as any deer living on your 500 acres.

I drive through a lot of the places where these deer live in a hodge podge of 1-50 acre suburban and city lots. I am telling you that it is not much different than driving through Leoma TN and nobody will think twice about killing a deer on a small woodlot there.

Again, color me NOT impressed. I've worked with suburban deer quite a bit. They are nothing more than hand-fed pets. Killing one of those needs to be "honored" as much as killing farmer Joe's cow.

 

[BSK]

...but then, in this "look at me" world we live in, I guess I shouldn't be surprised how low some will sink to glorify themselves.

 

[Spurhunter]

...but then, in this "look at me" world we live in, I guess I shouldn't be surprised how low some will sink to glorify themselves.

We all know YouTube and social media has ruined hunting for the majority. It's now mostly attention prostitutes that care nothing about the process. They just want a grip and grin they can put on Fakebook or a video they can put on YouTube. Unfortunately, so many people today are star struck over anyone that is "famous".

 

[Hduke86]

I got a chance to meet Lee a few weeks ago at GA deer show. He showed up to watch the truck shootoff. He was very gracious to me my15 year old kids and was impressed by my son's 150 inch 8 pt buck taken on public.

These guys are well spoken and represent hunting will in my opinion. This is the future of more bowhunting whether we like it or not. Tyler Jordan was a smart man to partner with them recently. I would expect them to develop a new elite suburban camo line that is more akin to Kuiu and FirstLite vs. the everyman realtree camo. Just a guess...that is what I would do.

They may be well spoken and very polite and gracious group of guys. Bowhunting neighborhood deer is nothing new and I don't think anyone has a "problem" really with it. I've arrowed many does and bucks literally within 40 yards of my grandparents house. The difference is the way they portray it as such a great accomplishment. It's really not at all and I don't believe for one dang second that a knock on the door and good manners are they only thing they give for permission. No telling and we will never really know what kind of cash or incentive is exchanged for that neighborhood buck. I'll give them this, I can leave it on the tv and walk away with my boys sitting there watching it and I really don't have to worry about something crude or foul being said.

 

[BSK]

We all know YouTube and social media has ruined hunting for the majority. It's now mostly attention prostitutes that care nothing about the process. They just want a grip and grin they can put on Fakebook or a video they can put on YouTube. Unfortunately, so many people today are star struck over anyone that is "famous".

Well said.

 

[Antler Daddy]

As far as I know, there is not any record book that differentiates between a deer killed on a 500 acre 30 year intensively managed property vs. a buck killed in Leiper's Fork, unincorporated Leoma, or on the Laurel Hill WMA which is surrounded by lots of small properties.

The non-typical Tucker buck fed from suburban back yards before being killed out of a blind in a field just a short distance away. Less than 5 years later, that buck's home no longer exists because homes are there.

I mean no disrespect and owe a lot of my knowledge to learning from you over the years. But.... I am surprised that a deer/land manager would not support killing these deer for population control no matter where they live by any legal means. The alternative is they just eat everything, cause more vehicle accidents, and the guberment will hire sharp shooters or whatever without any person having the ability to hunt/shoot them.

Location, location, location...you cant kill big deer where they are no big deer. A guy living in the suburbs cant walk out of his door onto the back 20/40 or always drive an hour or more to hunt. A guy living in the suburbs sometimes cant earn a living and afford a secluded piece of dirt the middle of nowhere where all of these wild wary animals live.

Hunters have been killing suburban and city bucks for years. These guys figured out how to get it on film, make it entertaining, and turn a passion into a career.

 

[BSK]

They may be well spoken and very polite and gracious group of guys. Bowhunting neighborhood deer is nothing new and I don't think anyone has a "problem" really with it. I've arrowed many does and bucks literally within 40 yards of my grandparents house. The difference is the way they portray it as such a great accomplishment.

Exactly. I've killed a snot-load of suburban deer. Got paid to. With a silenced sniper rifle in the middle of the night. But it certainly wasn't anything to be proud of. Killing them with a bow wouldn't have enhanced the difficulty. Those deer could have been killed with a hammer.

 

[BSK]

As far as I know, there is not any record book that differentiates between a deer killed on a 500 acre 30 year intensively managed property vs. a buck killed in Leiper's Fork, unincorporated Leoma, or on the Laurel Hill WMA which is surrounded by lots of small properties.

And one of the many reasons I don't care squat about record books.

Just because something is legal doesn't mean it's something worthy of praise.

 

[Jcalder]

The amount of time these guys put into killing a deer is crazy. And not just any deer, they'll pick a single deer and hunt that deer exclusively. Or maybe 3. To hunt these "pets" but it takes them 50 sits sometimes is crazy. The one thing I have heard, but not seen, is they do use some possible distasteful tactics to get permission sometimes. If anything, they prove with hard work you can still hunt if you live in suburban areas if you put the work in.

 

[Hduke86]

Exactly. I've killed a snot-load of suburban deer. Got paid to. With a silenced sniper rifle in the middle of the night. But it certainly wasn't anything to be proud of. Killing them with a bow wouldn't have enhanced the difficulty. Those deer could have been killed with a hammer.

Lol I don't shoot them anymore at my in-laws when they get in the flowerbeds. I just reach down and and give them a little love tap with a rock. So far I'm about 20 for 20 cause they're about 10 yards away lol.

 

[BSK]

The amount of time these guys put into killing a deer is crazy. And not just any deer, they'll pick a single deer and hunt that deer exclusively. Or maybe 3. To hunt these "pets" but it takes them 50 sits sometimes is crazy.

So what? Which is more impressive, sitting 50 times to kill a big pet or sitting 50 times in the mountains of East TN to kill a 110-inch 3 1/2 year-old buck? The mountain buck (and the hunter who killed it) impresses me. The one shooting a suburban monster doesn't.

But hey, to each their own. I don't begrudge those guys one bit for killing what they can kill. Or even for making a living at it. But don't expect me to be impressed. In fact, I'll show my old butt-hole self by going out on limb and saying I think this is an embarrassment to hunting. But that's just my very unpopular opinion.

 

[Antler Daddy]

Exactly. I've killed a snot-load of suburban deer. Got paid to. With a silenced sniper rifle in the middle of the night. But it certainly wasn't anything to be proud of. Killing them with a bow wouldn't have enhanced the difficulty. Those deer could have been killed with a hammer.

I don't blame you! I wouldn't be proud of killing a bunch of deer at night with a silenced rifle either! But, a man has got to do what he has to do.

We know the bow was not even a option for you. I would argue the hammer would have been more challenging and entertaining to watch for sure.

 

[RUGER]

It's a heck of a deer and would be an actual achievement if they didn't hunt people's pets. I've literally seen them set up a ground blind next to a person's driveway and then the lawn service came and he was sitting in it while they began to mow.

I saw that one.
He was backing out of the driveway to go eat lunch and his buddy called him and told him the group of bucks were headed down the hill towards him.
Cell camera gave them up.
He rushed, dramatically, but was JUST able to slip back into the ground blind before they showed up.
He took a VERY long shot and after an off camera recovery he got him.


All I will say is that's a big deer.

 

[BSK]

I would argue the hammer would have been more challenging and entertaining to watch for sure.

Ha!

I was photo-censusing a local deer herd in a gated community in Alabama. While down on my knees adjusting the camera, I heard something behind me. Slowly turning around, I spy a buck sneaking up behind me. Not having worked with many suburban deer at the time, I got kind of worried what he was up to. Next thing I know, I feel his nose on the back of my neck. Buck then proceeded to eat the corn out of my backpack while I was wearing it.

 

[Spurhunter]

I am surprised that a deer/land manager would not support killing these deer for population control no matter where they live by any legal means.

Nobody said they didn't support killing these deer. We said it's no great accomplishment and it's definitely nothing to brag about. Every one of us is about conservation. Most of us are not impressed by youtube "stars" killing pets in backyards. Furthermore, if it was about population control shouldn't they be killing does?

 

[Roost 1]

Nobody said they didn't support killing these deer. We said it's no great accomplishment and it's definitely nothing to brag about. Every one of us is about conservation. Most of us are not impressed by youtube "stars" killing pets in backyards. Furthermore, if it was about population control shouldn't they be killing does?

Ding Ding Ding….we have a winner!!
Sadly some people don't get it and never will.

 

[BSK]

I mean no disrespect and owe a lot of my knowledge to learning from you over the years. But.... I am surprised that a deer/land manager would not support killing these deer for population control no matter where they live by any legal means.

Because these deer weren't killed for population control. The hunters killed them to glorify themselves, plain and simple. Management had absolutely nothing to do with it. If it had, they would be killing primarily does.

Hunters have been killing suburban and city bucks for years. These guys figured out how to get it on film, make it entertaining, and turn a passion into a career.

Yes, hunters have been killing suburban deer for years. I've helped design some of these suburban hunts. I fully support those hunters who apply for these hunts. But the idea guys film the killing of suburban "zoo deer" bucks and others find this "entertaining," well, to me that's deeply troubling. But again, my opinions won't be popular.

 

[timberjack86]

So what? Which is more impressive, sitting 50 times to kill a big pet or sitting 50 times in the mountains of East TN to kill a 110-inch 3 1/2 year-old buck? The mountain buck (and the hunter who killed it) impresses me. The one shooting a suburban monster doesn't.

But hey, to each their own. I don't begrudge those guys one bit for killing what they can kill. Or even for making a living at it. But don't expect me to be impressed. In fact, I'll show my old butt-hole self by going out on limb and saying I think this is an embarrassment to hunting. But that's just my very unpopular opinion.