String Music
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I'm trying to decide between Winchester Extended Range and Hevi-shot. I bought a Pure Gold choke for my SBEII and need to start patterning it. I'm thinking #6 shot with either.
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you can try both and see but as i put in the other thread i shot the XR out of my stoeger for a few years and they did pretty good, better then lead, however i never could get them to out pattern Hevi #7 or the magblends and i shot them out of a Jellyhead, IC and Sumtoy choke.
they may shoot great in yours and i have not shot them from a PG though.
If you shoot #6 (in 3") you will want to be in the 160-180 range at 40yds. if you are shooting 3.5" then 200 is not out of the question for 6 shot.
they may shoot great in yours and i have not shot them from a PG though.
If you shoot #6 (in 3") you will want to be in the 160-180 range at 40yds. if you are shooting 3.5" then 200 is not out of the question for 6 shot.
my moss 835 with polished barrel and 670 pure gold choke loves the mag blend 3in, im putting up over 200 at 40
catman529
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I used to think 6 shot was better than 5 because of more pellets. I cant speak for long range shots (no experience there) but at 20 yards with 5 shot, a single shot was deadly to 3 birds. Not gonna worry too much about shot size anymore unless I want to start taking 40+ yard shots. All these shells, chokes, # of shot in a 10 inch circle, etc is interesting to me... I guess it gives you better confidence of taking a bird?
I used to shoot the x-tended range and it patterned well, however was not satisfied with its effectiveness. Prefer the Hevi-13 and not much diff in price.
Let me add there is nothing like Nitro however it is too expensive for me anymore.
Wrangler95
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I use Hevi-Shot in my 835!!
bvoss
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I shoot the Nitros 4x5x7's out of a .690 Jelly Head in my 835. . I shot four shots last year. Four dead birds. I think its worth the price once you get the gun patterned. Because a box of ten will last you two seasons. I have not tried the mag blends or strait 7's but, I've tried the extended range,federals, and remington. For me, the set up I have is just too good to change and I feel that it would cost more money to try and change set ups than I want to spend.
here is an example of the difference in my gun from xtended ranges and Hevi #7 from last year
Yes 3" and I know it's 7s vs 6 it's just an example. Even the mag lends I got 170's and hevi 6 I was getting 165.
Just to add this was my gun and choke combos yours may be way different. From my gun 103 pellets is a joke for the price of the shells and I had been a fan prior to that.
exactly what swamp said, i total understand the Dead is Dead and lead works fine for me. I am not promoting you switch to one or the other however patterning your gun is just something you should do ethically for turkey hunting. In doing so you can see exactly what your gun does and how far you can ethically shoot a turkey at. People find out a bunch from patterning your gun just like i found out last year that the choke i switched to changed me POI by a wide margin. Had i not really taken the time to shoot it i would have never known which could have ended up in a miss or wounding a bird.
shoot what you can and shoot what you are able to afford but see what its limits are. If you want to limit all shots to 20yds that is perfectly fine but at some point a bird will hang at 25-35 and you have to make a choice. Not knowing if you can or cannot hit the bird at that range is just bad planning.
also IMO it is actually fun to go out and see what your stuff and do and how good you can make it, but there is always a line of "to much"
shoot what you can and shoot what you are able to afford but see what its limits are. If you want to limit all shots to 20yds that is perfectly fine but at some point a bird will hang at 25-35 and you have to make a choice. Not knowing if you can or cannot hit the bird at that range is just bad planning.
also IMO it is actually fun to go out and see what your stuff and do and how good you can make it, but there is always a line of "to much"
Grizzly Johnson
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Swamphunter said:
Yep, a choke or shell change can have an effect on POA/POI. That's why it's a good idea to see what your gun is doing.....
catman529
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I've always been an "if it gets the job done" type, mainly because of money, but really if it kills a bird then it's fine with me. I don't need 200 pellets at 40 yards to kill a turkey... I have an XX full choke which was given to me by a good member here and I use the Win Supreme loads which are less than $15 a box, I just don't see the need for those super expensive loads when I killed 3 in 1 shot at 20 yards.Swamphunter said:
Cat, i dont think he is saying you need better shells or even what you need to do with your gun to be effective. Just pattern the gun and know its limitations (which you may have already done) also number counts are just that....numbers. 200+ at 40yds is great but still on the shooter to make a good shot, however if you are getting 40-50 pellets at 40yds then you obviously know what the limitations are on your shots and know the range to which you are effective.
I want mine to be able to shoot good TO 40yds, never had to shoot that far but at some point it may be my only option and i just want to know what my gun will do when the time comes i need it.
I want mine to be able to shoot good TO 40yds, never had to shoot that far but at some point it may be my only option and i just want to know what my gun will do when the time comes i need it.
Lawrence
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Swamphunter said:
YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD
YOU OWE IT TO THE ANIMAL
catman529
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I do need to know what my gun will do farther out. I killed the 3 in 1 shot last october during the fall hunt. Posted it here..... http://www.tndeer.com/tndeertalk/ubbthr ... ost2584368Swamphunter said:
Grizzly Johnson
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catman529 said:
Don't get all excited Catman, he isn't jabbing at you..... And neither am I, but I will say one thing, sometimes you just get lucky.... I have been a couple of times myself, and frankly sometimes that's just part of hunting. Yes it ONLY takes 1 pellet in the right spot to take a turkey down.... but are you willing to gamble your shot on 1 pellet. If your gun is effective at knocking down a bird at 20 yards, then by all means get EVERY bird into 20 yards and you will be good to go..... but what happens at 25, 30, 35, 40 yards to your pattern? Your not going to always get a bird in to 20 yards..... if your fine with spending hours/days chasing a tom and then finally get him to 30 yards and have to watch him walk out of your life because you couldn't shoot in confidence, then by all means have at it. But I personally like to know EXACTLY how far (within reason/ethically) my gun will kill a turkey.... think of it as an insurance policy.
