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It's been my experience that bucks with well developed racks this early are older. Doesn't mean they'll be giants, just that they're mature. Here's one from this past season. He was abnormally developed in mid June when all the other bucks were nubby & knobby. Although his frame was mostly established by mid June, he kept adding tine length and finished out pretty darn big. Never have caught that deer in daylight nor seen him on the hoof, but he's on cam pretty frequently at night and has been for a few years. This year I think I'm going to try making a play on him. I think he's big enough to hunt!
 

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Verry possible no doubt. Although ive seen alot of buck add a ton of horn through june, july and august. The cropfields that surround my house allow me to watch them develop virtually daily. Ive seen quite a few out perform my expectations
 
It's been my experience that bucks with well developed racks this early are older. Doesn't mean they'll be giants, just that they're mature. Here's one from this past season. He was abnormally developed in mid June when all the other bucks were nubby & knobby. Although his frame was mostly established by mid June, he kept adding tine length and finished out pretty darn big. Never have caught that deer in daylight nor seen him on the hoof, but he's on cam pretty frequently at night and has been for a few years. This year I think I'm going to try making a play on him. I think he's big enough to hunt!
Great buck ski
 
Never have caught that deer in daylight nor seen him on the hoof, but he's on cam pretty frequently at night and has been for a few years. This year I think I'm going to try making a play on him. I think he's big enough to hunt!
I learned a very valuable - and thankfully positive - lesson last year about "nocturnal" bucks. I had had a really unique buck on camera for two years (as a 3 1/2 and then a 4 1/2), yet not one video - NOT ONE - was of this buck moving during daylight. I believed him to be completely nocturnal. Yet while hunting the general area where I most frequently got videos of him just prior to peak breeding, he was seen by hunters pursuing hot does on three separate occasions. Thankfully, I killed him the third time he was seen during daylight. Yet even though he was obviously active during daylight around the peak of the rut, I still never got a video of him in daylight, even though I had cameras on many types of setups.
 
I learned a very valuable - and thankfully positive - lesson last year about "nocturnal" bucks. I had had a really unique buck on camera for two years (as a 3 1/2 and then a 4 1/2), yet not one video - NOT ONE - was of this buck moving during daylight. I believed him to be completely nocturnal. Yet while hunting the general area where I most frequently got videos of him just prior to peak breeding, he was seen by hunters pursuing hot does on three separate occasions. Thankfully, I killed him the third time he was seen during daylight. Yet even though he was obviously active during daylight around the peak of the rut, I still never got a video of him in daylight, even though I had cameras on many types of setups.

It's crazy how that happens. Hopefully your experience plays out same way for me! I've always heard even the most careful of nocturnal bucks begin to slip up in old age, and I'm counting on it with this guy.
 
I've seen a lot of antler growth already this year which surprises me too!! I was seeing some bucks still sporting racks into late February. I'm not sure what's going on around here. I'm in upper East TN.
I saw 2 bucks chasing a doe mid-March in Washington County.
 
this isn't about antler growth but last year in the middle of March in east tn I saw a great8 point tending a doe still trying to breed. Really tripped me out he was hot on her she seemed to be ready to breed.
 
this isn't about antler growth but last year in the middle of March in east tn I saw a great8 point tending a doe still trying to breed. Really tripped me out he was hot on her she seemed to be ready to breed.
What you witnessed could have been a very late-born female fawn that did not reach sexual maturity until March. However, what I suspect you witnessed was a barren doe. And by a "barren" doe, I mean a doe that cannot conceive, for whatever reason. And sometimes barren does still go through repeated estrus cycles, and are bred during each cycle, but never conceive.

Barren does are a highly controversial topic in the research world. Not whether or not they exist, but at what percentage of the adult female population. Penned studies suggest the percentage of does that are truly barren is extremely low (like 0.5%). But studies in the wild suggest it can be much higher. Studies we conducted in the Southeast (examining pelvic girdles), suggests that in some locations, as high as 10% of adult does have never given birth. And in the locations that have the highest barren doe percentages, it is commonplace to hear observers talking about seeing bucks chasing does late into the winter or early spring. Yet fetal conception date studies in the same area show no late conceptions. So what is going on? These barren does are coming into estrus every 28-30 days, causing bucks to chase them and act "rutty." Yet all of this late breeding produces no conceptions, hence the cycle repeats every month. I've never seen a study concerning how long this process can continue into the late spring, but in southern KY, I've personally witnessed a buck hot on an estrus doe Easter weekend in early April.
 
It's been my experience that bucks with well developed racks this early are older.
I usually see older bucks drop antlers first, which may support the information BSK cited earlier with early drop antlers correlating to longer growing time for the rack, and while not all mature bucks are large racked like you said maybe that ties your observation to all of it when seeing older bucks more developed in the antler growing season….something to observe anyways
 
Sorry for the low quality. It was very foggy and misty this
Morn. Picture was taken today-june 3. Seems like an unusual amount of growth for this time of year. Deer usually stay in velvet here till about sept 15th or so. Is this an early bloomer or is he likely to grow a lot of antler.

Is that the one you said you were saving for me to hunt this year? :p
 

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