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Tight Groups at 20 yards; Large Groups at 40

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I love my new Limbdriver rest. Works great and I think fall aways are a little more forgiving than whisker biscuits. I haven't shot much since early season and went out yesterday and today. Today I was shooting some super tight groups at 20 yards, but when I backed out to 40 yards they opened up. Is it:

A) I need to practice more from 40 yards and work on my form

B) Something is out of whack


I got everything set up nicely and I am getting complete clearance over my rest.
 
Something might be a lil out of whack...But it took me tons of shots to get semi consistent groups at 40yrds...But i do love todays bows...They shoot much better...Or so ive been told by the ol man..lol
 
My gut tells me it is myself that caused the large groups. I went out to 40 yards towards the end of my session. Tomorrow I will start at 40 yards fresh and see what happens.
 
I am sure you will find that Limbdriver to be the easiest tuning rest you have or will ever own. I love mine and should have bought one sooner. Do a walk back tuning exercise and with very fine adjustments you will pull your groups together at all yardages. Was the 40yd group consistently to one side of your aiming point?
 
Buccaneer said:
I am sure you will find that Limbdriver to be the easiest tuning rest you have or will ever own. I love mine and should have bought one sooner. Do a walk back tuning exercise and with very fine adjustments you will pull your groups together at all yardages. Was the 40yd group consistently to one side of your aiming point?

I will try again tomorrow but the 40 yard groups were a little right.
 
I shot again today in the wind. I spent my whole session at 40 yards and the groups improved. I guess my problem is I don't spend much time practicing past 30 yards. The pin at 40 yards really starts to show any jerking and shaking. I found I really had to concentrate on form.
 
Could be your form, but other factors could be arrow spine or a sight that's not level. If at 40 you group but off to one side, I'd guess that the sight's not level.
 
Sounds like rust to me! If your groups were a little to the right, you probably moved your anchor point just a little. This move was not making a noticeable difference at 20 yards but at 40 everything matters. Don't sweat it! Just get out and shoot some and the rust will get knocked off. Your form will settle in and you will be back to fine shooting in no time.

Remember archery and golf are very similar in many ways. If you lay your clubs down for the winter doesn't it take you a couple of rounds in the spring to get back in form?
 
John & Teresa - EWA said:
Could be your form, but other factors could be arrow spine or a sight that's not level. If at 40 you group but off to one side, I'd guess that the sight's not level.

Even if you think it is your form, I would take a look at your sight and make sure it's level.
 
Try focusing on your sight, target should be blurry and sight post should be clear.Work on controlling your breathing too,make sure you have good trigger control and follow through.Shooting a bow is just like shooting a rifle.Sight alignment,Sight picture,Firm steady grip, breath control, trigger control(squeeze don't jerk or pull, and end with follow through.
 
John & Teresa - EWA said:
Could be your form, but other factors could be arrow spine or a sight that's not level. If at 40 you group but off to one side, I'd guess that the sight's not level.

well said
 
IMO a. is your problem. Form is much more critical at 40. Shoot some at 55 or 60 and you'll soon be stackin' 'em at 40!

As the archery den stated trigger control is paramount!
 
Here is a trick you may want to try:

Get a video camera and film yourself. If it is your form you will see it. All the above is true. You will figure it out.
 
Form is much more critical at a longer distance . Follow through after the shot by keeping your bow arm up and aiming at the target until the arrow hits . The most common error in form is dropping your bow arm at the shot .
 
Radar said:
Form is much more critical at a longer distance . Follow through after the shot by keeping your bow arm up and aiming at the target until the arrow hits . The most common error in form is dropping your bow arm at the shot .

Happy birthday Radar...is it cold up there?
 

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