To all fanners, decoy users from a blind

[Poleaxe]

If the (dang I want to say everything) people on here give you any crap over the way you want or do kill your birds don't back down to their type of hunting and fear of asking anything about it. I ain't never killed one with a fan or decoy. If someone wanted to ride around and shoot em off a golf cart that's their business. They shouldn't get discouraged by the same individuals repeatedly. You know who you are and of all the people I've met on here and talked to you get made fun of the most. So lighten up or go somewhere else please.

I think you have missed the point entirely. For example, if it were legal to bait turkeys would you be ok with it?

Then if it were legal to bait turkeys should the limit still be 4 toms?
See where Im going with this?

In addition, at least from what I have seen, there are people out there that claim they are "turkey hunting Gods" because they slay the birds every year. Their tactics include full strut dekes and ground blinds in the middle of a spread of decoys. Legal, yes. Anything wrong with that, not really. But what makes them the "authority" on turkey hunting?

Times have changed, no doubt.


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:bash: Dang it man. Are using deks legal? YES. Do we get that? Is fanning legal? Yes. Understand that? Does everyone use these tactics? No. Do alot get sick of his daily comments against these tactics? Yes. And how he would love it if it was banned because it gives others the upper hand. I ain't got the time to go back through and requote every post. I don't know how to make it any clearer. Sad when my inbox has been blowing up from members thanking me.

 

[Roost 1]

Let me clearly state that I do not know Setterman, nor his past history with others, but just by listening to him talk about turkey hunting I believe he is knowledgeable on the subject. Most people don't get it, becoming a good turkey hunter is not about fancy guns, chokes, shells, blinds, decoys, etc.... All these things do help you kill turkey's, but what happens when they don't work? Learn the habits and tendencies of the birds. THEN you can become a turkey hunyer and find success wherever, however, whenever you hunt. You won't learn these things over night. You can't go buy it at walmart or online. However if you spend hours, days, months, and years in the outdoors you will figure it out. It requires a certain degree of dedication and determination!!!!!

 

[Poleaxe]

Let me clearly state that I do not know Setterman, nor his past history with others, but just by listening to him talk about turkey hunting I believe he is knowledgeable on the subject. Most people don't get it, becoming a good turkey hunter is not about fancy guns, chokes, shells, blinds, decoys, etc.... All these things do help you kill turkey's, but what happens when they don't work? Learn the habits and tendencies of the birds. THEN you can become a turkey hunyer and find success wherever, however, whenever you hunt. You won't learn these things over night. You can't go buy it at walmart or online. However if you spend hours, days, months, and years in the outdoors you will figure it out. It requires a certain degree of dedication and determination!!!!!

And that's how to maturly share some guidance and information. I know it's not something you do. But you don't constantly think the use of them should be banned. I go to you for guidance more than anyone. You ain't ever negatively talked about using these tactics. He is VERY knowledgeable about turkeys and I'm sure can kill any bird he hears, but I don't think the tactics he disagrees with need to be banned or constantly ridiculed.

 

[AT Hiker]

I have a hard time conveying my point in text on this matter, so I digress.

However, in my point of view of Setterman, he is witnessing "turkey hunting" evolve into something he doesn't agree with. He has strong beliefs about it and that gets to you and others that have filled your inbox.

For the record; I have used dekes, strutters and even tried fanning as a last ditch effort (last week) to no avail.

I will also say this; turkey hunters from across the country all have different philosophies. Rio bow hunters rely heavily on blinds and often times bait, imagine of Setterman lived in KS or TX? He would have a coronary for sure.


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[PickettSFHunter]

Everyone should go read the Tenth Legion to have a better understanding of where those of us that believe like Setterman are coming from. Tom Kelley can portray it so much better than I can.


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[AT Hiker]

Don't cave in to 'em.... It's kinda funny they jumping on you Setterman but the ones like Ed Case who have taken your advice are better off for it.........

Roost. You do know that Setterman (Weasel) turned a fellow Tndeer member into the TWRA over a minor fishing violation don't you.

I don't consider any poaching minor and he was caught well before I turned him. I'd turn in anyone I catch poaching. If that makes me a bad guy, then I'll gladly take that label.

I will admit I know nothing of the prior situation you all are talking about. I will also say that turning in a "poacher" is something that should be thought out carefully and not done in a arbitrary manner.

We are all likely guilty of "poaching" but luckily we either unknowingly got away with it or had someone educate us.
Myself, I have followed the law in one state but would have been considered a poacher in a another...


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[Bucky]

The coward would be the (Weasel) setterman

Correct, waiting for a short story response from him now

For once. setterman is quiet. Amazing!

 

[Poleaxe]

I have a hard time conveying my point in text on this matter, so I digress.

However, in my point of view of Setterman, he is witnessing "turkey hunting" evolve into something he doesn't agree with. He has strong beliefs about it and that gets to you and others that have filled your inbox.

For the record; I have used dekes, strutters and even tried fanning as a last ditch effort (last week) to no avail.

I will also say this; turkey hunters from across the country all have different philosophies. Rio bow hunters rely heavily on blinds and often times bait, imagine of Setterman lived in KS or TX? He would have a coronary for sure.


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Dang it At, if it's legal what right does he have to say it's the wrong way? Most of us havent drunk the kool-aid and see the bigger picture. Here's an example on the next post.

 

[Poleaxe]

Everyone should go read the Tenth Legion to have a better understanding of where those of us that believe like Setterman are coming from. Tom Kelley can portray it so much better than I can.


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I Understand and respect your beliefs. Im not veteran and most time only carry in a vest and gun. So I'm not in the same category as these discussions slandered by him daily and there's more mature ways to share your expertise. Those ways are to explain them in a choice of guidance like roost and pickettsfhunter have calmly explained. They don't think daily these things should be banned.

 

[AT Hiker]

Dang it At, if it's legal what right does he have to say it's the wrong way? Most of us havent drunk the kool-aid and see the bigger picture. Here's an example on the next post.

Well, I would like to thank we all have a right to express our beliefs.

I do see where you and others are coming from. Its like the cross bow vs vertical bow discussion. IMO, the "bigger picture" is that modern game management has not evolved with the methods. Every year during Spring a thread is guaranteed to pop up talking about how tough or bad turkey hunting has become. No gobbling, no large flocks, etc. its what these people are used to and they complain. No Different than Setterdude complaining about the newly evolved turkey hunter.

Im seeing this now in Western hunting. The new long range shooting is hitting the scene and has really caused some serious tension between hunters and with good reason.


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[Vermin93]

Imagine if there were some guys in the serious deer hunting forum routinely going off about how completely lame it is to shoot deer from box blinds and shooting houses. How well do you think that would go over on this site?

At some point it becomes a matter of common courtesy. I have no interest in sniping deer from box blinds, but I don't besmirch those who do because it's legal and its how they want to kill deer.

So the question really is, why should turkey hunting be treated differently from deer hunting on this site? There are some pretty darn good deer hunters on this site and I don't see them making a habit of slamming legal deer killing methods that they don't practice or agree with.

This would be a great poll:

Who is more annoying?

1. The pompous turkey hunter
2. The pompous bowhunter
3. The pompous fly fishermen

 

[AT Hiker]

Imagine if there were some guys in the serious deer hunting forum routinely going off about how completely lame it is to shoot deer from box blinds and shooting houses. How well do you think that would go over on this site?

At some point it becomes a matter of common courtesy. I have no interest in sniping deer from box blinds, but I don't besmirch those who do because it's legal and its how they want to kill deer.

So the question really is, why should turkey hunting be treated differently from deer hunting on this site? There are some pretty darn good deer hunters on this site and I don't see them making a habit of slamming deer killing methods that they don't practice or agree with.

I agree but deer hunting is primarily a ambush style pursuit where as turkey has a whole slue of methods.

Look at it from a different perspective. One that goes to the root of hunting a turkey as a art in the sense of "calling". Compare it, in a lame sense, to hunting bugling elk vs shooting them on a winter range 500 yards away. Its just a different style and some have extremely strong convictions about it.

My only conviction is dont say you are a better turkey hunter than me or someone else because you choose to utilize a different method. Whether that method is bait piles, full strut decoys or strictly slate calls. Hunt (kill) them the way YOU want.

Here is what I HATE about the new style of turkey hunting... Numbers. Its like duck hunters have migrated over to turkey hunting. You get bro points for limiting out. So what if you limited out, better yet did you enjoy the hunt or did you enjoy filling all your tags because you could? Did you eat them? Did you take new people? Did you challenge yourself?


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[AT Hiker]

3. The pompous fly fishermen

Is there such a thing? Im all about fly fishing but I have yet to meet self important fly fisherman. Most of us just want to be left alone and therefore fish in places where most people would not venture too.


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[Vermin93]

3. The pompous fly fishermen

Is there such a thing? Im all about fly fishing but I have yet to meet self important fly fisherman. Most of us just want to be left alone and therefore fish in places where most people would not venture too.


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Yes, there is such a thing. I've been fly fishing 25 years and I've met plenty. Often decked out head to toe in Orvis and Simms gear and always ready to tell you how great they are. I'm not sure who takes the cake - the western trout fly fishing snob or the saltwater fly fishing snob.

Thankfully, most of the fly fishermen I've met are not like that.

 

[AT Hiker]

3. The pompous fly fishermen

Is there such a thing? Im all about fly fishing but I have yet to meet self important fly fisherman. Most of us just want to be left alone and therefore fish in places where most people would not venture too.


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Yes, there is such a thing. I've been fly fishing 25 years and I've met plenty. Often decked out head to toe in Orvis and Simms gear and always ready to tell you how great they are. I'm not sure who takes the cake - the western trout fly fishing snob or the saltwater fly fishing snob.

Thankfully, most of the fly fishermen I've met are not like that.

I guess I am a anti-social fly fisherman. I get the heck away from people and avoid fly fishing around places like Boozeman, MT[emoji14].





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[Vermin93]

Yes, there is such a thing. I've been fly fishing 25 years and I've met plenty. Often decked out head to toe in Orvis and Simms gear and always ready to tell you how great they are. I'm not sure who takes the cake - the western trout fly fishing snob or the saltwater fly fishing snob.

Thankfully, most of the fly fishermen I've met are not like that.

I guess I am a anti-social fly fisherman. I get the heck away from people and avoid fly fishing around places like Boozeman, MT[emoji14].

You're a wise man.

I have found that if you're fortunate not to meet them on the water you will eventually meet them in the bar. Kind of like golf...

 

[AT Hiker]

Speaking of bars, in Boozeman, MT they have Moose Drool on tap at the Montana Ale Works brew pub. I usually swing in for a pint before going in to Yellowstone. Lots of Orvis and Costa pro staffers eat there too.


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[Beard Buster]

Imagine if there were some guys in the serious deer hunting forum routinely going off about how completely lame it is to shoot deer from box blinds and shooting houses. How well do you think that would go over on this site?

At some point it becomes a matter of common courtesy. I have no interest in sniping deer from box blinds, but I don't besmirch those who do because it's legal and its how they want to kill deer.

So the question really is, why should turkey hunting be treated differently from deer hunting on this site? There are some pretty darn good deer hunters on this site and I don't see them making a habit of slamming deer killing methods that they don't practice or agree with.

I agree but deer hunting is primarily a ambush style pursuit where as turkey has a whole slue of methods.

Look at it from a different perspective. One that goes to the root of hunting a turkey as a art in the sense of "calling". Compare it, in a lame sense, to hunting bugling elk vs shooting them on a winter range 500 yards away. Its just a different style and some have extremely strong convictions about it.

My only conviction is dont say you are a better turkey hunter than me or someone else because you choose to utilize a different method. Whether that method is bait piles, full strut decoys or strictly slate calls. Hunt (kill) them the way YOU want.

Here is what I HATE about the new style of turkey hunting... Numbers. Its like duck hunters have migrated over to turkey hunting. You get bro points for limiting out. So what if you limited out, better yet did you enjoy the hunt or did you enjoy filling all your tags because you could? Did you eat them? Did you take new people? Did you challenge yourself?

Great post
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[mathews338]

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I would love to meet you one day. You probably wouldn't like it much.[/

:roll: Ahhhhh, the internet tough guy has shown up, everyone run for the hills :rotf:

the internet has NOTHING to do with it and guys who know me are lol about your post. at this time it is my only option for talking to you. you need a lesson in manners. I'm nearly 40 and my dad would still slap the heck out of me for acting like you. I was taught better. I may not agree with others sometimes but it doesn't give me the right to be rude.

 

[elkman]

I am usually just an onlooker. But, i figure i might as well share my thoughts as well.
I have been turkey hunting 20+ years. When i first started, all i had was an easy yelper box call, my cousins old mossberg shotgun (only person i knew that had a gun with 3" chamber), modified choke, and a home made facemask. We had to drive to another county just to hunt as it was only open in certain counties back then. Since then, turkey hunting has grown into an amazing pastime for me. I had rather hunt turkeys than anything else. Now, all of the tactics spoken of are legal and i have no issue with them and i think it would be awesome to fan a turkey. It appears the rush would be what we all strive to achieve while out in the woods. BUT, i hunt public land for the most part so fanning, blinds, and decoys are really not an option for me. I have for my advantage, switched to a Jeb's choke, Longbeard #6's and i put 351 pellets in a 10" circle last year after having my barrel polished. Now when i first started turkey hunting, that 3" Mossberg was good out to 30 yards with its modified choke. I now can shoot 60 comfortably. Should these shells and chokes be banned from turkey hunting. In my opinion, these super duper shotguns has caused more of a decline in turkey numbers over the years than we are willing to admit. Where does it stop at? I for one have no issues for legal tactics for turkeys. Good hunting and GOD BLESS!!!