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diamond hunter

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I have 350 acres in Macon/sumner county.about 85 acres in tillable ground.The problem is of that 85 acres there is probably 18 fields that make up the 85 acres. So I plant 2-5 food plots a year and guess what? I don't see many deer. Sometimes 5-10 sometimes none.Is my best bet to let a couple of the fields just grow up to a thicket?Poplar trees sprout all over my place and I'll just cut the trees in 25 years.
 
I would start a rotation and bush hog the fields every few years. Almost like a CRP but just keep some really thick nasty stuff and hunt the transitions. And still do your food plots in other fields.

I don't know if that's the best answer but if it doesn't work after a few years you can try something else.
 
Absolutely let some of the fields grow up. I'd let at least half of them grow. Let em go as long as you can before the saplings get too big to bush hog. Like 44 mag said, I would rotate them so you don't cut them all in the same year.

Part of the reason the public land around here is so good is because of all the CRP fields and thickets. Mix that with some food plots and some hardwoods and you got everything a deer could want.
 
They love grown up fields for cover and bedding. If it were mine, I would want the biggest fields grown up
Agreed.

I wish I had the problem you had diamond hunter. I'll take all the fields I can get - ours is mostly all hardwoods. We logged and dozed 11 new acres of fields this past summer/early fall. If I had as much as you, I'd definitely let the bigger ones grow up and just cut here and there to keep it tall, but not out of control.
 
Agreed.

I wish I had the problem you had diamond hunter. I'll take all the fields I can get - ours is mostly all hardwoods. We logged and dozed 11 new acres of fields this past summer/early fall. If I had as much as you, I'd definitely let the bigger ones grow up and just cut here and there to keep it tall, but not out of control.
I'm seriously considering using chemical applications to keep large sections of my timber cuts in grasses and briers. I could use fire, but that gets complicated, especially because there are still standing hardwoods in the cuts and I don't want to kill them with too hot of a fire. Plus all the logistics of burning.
 
I have 350 acres in Macon/sumner county.about 85 acres in tillable ground.The problem is of that 85 acres there is probably 18 fields that make up the 85 acres. So I plant 2-5 food plots a year and guess what? I don't see many deer. Sometimes 5-10 sometimes none.Is my best bet to let a couple of the fields just grow up to a thicket?Poplar trees sprout all over my place and I'll just cut the trees in 25 years.
That plan will work brother . Was on a lease in Lincoln Co. OK lease and I also had three other leases so I got off of that one , simply because the landowner ran cows and the fields were picked clean. My friend through conversation said he didn't know what had got into the landowner I said what has happened. He said he sold all his cattle and letting the fields grow up !! My first words were " please let me back on that lease " which was actually my lease I just let them have it . That made an ok lease into a killer lease . Deer will bed down in growed up fields especially bucks because they think they are hidden which they are . Grown up fields make great bedding areas from my experience.
 
I'm seriously considering using chemical applications to keep large sections of my timber cuts in grasses and briers. I could use fire, but that gets complicated, especially because there are still standing hardwoods in the cuts and I don't want to kill them with too hot of a fire. Plus all the logistics of burning.
I assume you're talking an aerial application (helicopter). I've been told that's what we need to do on some areas we had timber harvested about 10 years ago and let go. All saplings and no sunlight hitting the ground. I'd love to do it. I've heard it really isn't that bad price-wise (somewhat costly, but much cheaper than you'd think). If you pull the plug and go that route at any point, definitely keep us abreast.
 
I assume you're talking an aerial application (helicopter).
Nope. Backpack sprayer. I'm not afraid of hard work. Planted 4,000 pines last winter.

Basically, I want to create what the TVA is creating in their powerline right-of-ways now with all chemical application instead of mowing.
 
Nope. Backpack sprayer. I'm not afraid of hard work. Planted 4,000 pines last winter.

Basically, I want to create what the TVA is creating in their powerline right-of-ways now with all chemical application instead of mowing.
Gotcha. Due to the lack of attention, ours got out of control (roughly 60 acres) and are 8-20 feet tall saplings. So, it's either aerial spray or a lot of hack and squirt with some fire mixed in. The areas we just had select cut, I won't let those go. Cant wait to have 40 acres of grasses/forbs/sage to hunt over. They will be killer! Your deer will really pile in there.
 
We had 100 acres heavily cut last winter. I would like to keep 20-30 acres of it in tall-grasses and briers.

What I found amazing is the TVA is now chemically spraying the powerline right-of-ways by hand! Ran into the crew of 4 Mexicans doing it in the dead of summer on my place. Wow, head high briers, thorned vines, and a zillion ticks and chiggers. Those guys are brave!

I need to find out what chemical mix they are using.
 
I have 350 acres in Macon/sumner county.about 85 acres in tillable ground.The problem is of that 85 acres there is probably 18 fields that make up the 85 acres. So I plant 2-5 food plots a year and guess what? I don't see many deer. Sometimes 5-10 sometimes none.Is my best bet to let a couple of the fields just grow up to a thicket?Poplar trees sprout all over my place and I'll just cut the trees in 25 years.
In my opinion, the perfect property would be 50% standing mature timber, 40% mixed types of cover, and 10% agriculture. As for the cover, I would want a mixture of native grasses, early stage successional hardwood regrowth, briers and vines, and young pine plantations (<15 years old). I would want no open fescue pastures at all.
 
We had 100 acres heavily cut last winter. I would like to keep 20-30 acres of it in tall-grasses and briers.

What I found amazing is the TVA is now chemically spraying the powerline right-of-ways by hand! Ran into the crew of 4 Mexicans doing it in the dead of summer on my place. Wow, head high briers, thorned vines, and a zillion ticks and chiggers. Those guys are brave!

I need to find out what chemical mix they are using.
We have a TVA easement through our property, and they sprayed it last summer. It is about 5 acres. I keep one acre or so of it cut. They seemed to just be spot spraying young pines, poplars, and around the towers. Wish they had sprayed a bit more.
 
Gotcha. Due to the lack of attention, ours got out of control (roughly 60 acres) and are 8-20 feet tall saplings. So, it's either aerial spray or a lot of hack and squirt with some fire mixed in. The areas we just had select cut, I won't let those go. Cant wait to have 40 acres of grasses/forbs/sage to hunt over. They will be killer! Your deer will really pile in there.
You considered a forestry mulcher?
 
You considered a forestry mulcher?
Best invention EVER! But jeez, $175 per hour is the norm (for an efficient operator with the biggest skid steer and mulching head).

I would pick a stand spot on the middle of a field you plan on letting grow up, let it go a year, then bushhog 20f strips coming out from the stand like spokes off a wheel. Disc or drill the strips with cereal grains. The following year, rotate the spokes 20ft clockwise and repeat. Keep rotating the planted areas until you get back to the starting strips in 4 years or so.
 
I would pick a stand spot on the middle of a field you plan on letting grow up, let it go a year, then bushhog 20f strips coming out from the stand like spokes off a wheel. Disc or drill the strips with cereal grains. The following year, rotate the spokes 20ft clockwise and repeat. Keep rotating the planted areas until you get back to the starting strips in 4 years or so.
Great idea!
 
You considered a forestry mulcher?
I haven't but will definitely look into that. The problem is the steepness of some of these areas. I may be able to get a mulcher aligning the roads and down off the sides a little ways, then use a head fire from the bottom, then hack and squirt whatever survives. Thanks for throwing out that option.
 

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