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Tube peep sight vs. Tubeless???

posted on another thread, get rid of the peep sight, get an anchor sight. I used the "no-peep" first and loved it and the anchor sight is even better. made by archery innovations.
 
First thing I've always done after every new bow I buy before I even shoot it is put a Winners Choice on it just because of the manufacture stretching and uncooperative peep straightness. The Heli-m I bought last yr was the first time I haven't immediately purchased a after market string and now with me shooting it in 3D's I'm back to the peep problem. I have missed the last 2 shoots account of not wanting to shell out $120 for a new one. Thanks to TN Guy with his above thread my problem will now be solved.. Thanks.
 
UTGrad said:
The strings I have from Energy Wave currently on my bow have not rotated and I've probably put 1,000 shots. I have a buddy that still shoots a tube peep regardless cause if he had a B&C buck and couldn't see cause the peep rotated well...you can imagine.
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I've had that problem, never a huge problem just slightly off. I just bring the peep to my mouth and finish the rotation. no big deal. Never did it hunting, only when getting things ready to hunt. He should be more worried about the tube, them things are a pain.

For the OP, do your self a favor, get a press and learn to work on your own bow. Takes trial an error to get a bow shooting like silk, with a press you can do it. The peep will change with every change.

Lets say you always shoot low, the problem could be your lower limbs are weaker that the top and on release the top limbs are pulling the nock up. Adjusting the limbs will effect the rotation of the peep, not to mention the discrepancy is creating more noise and robbing the arrow of energy. The peep will need reset and that is done twisting the string...you need a press.

When you get rid of that tube you might here noises you couldn't before, you'll want to eliminate them, a shop won't put the time and effort into the task...you need a press. I made mine out of some 60 year old cherry, served (yuk yuk yuk :) ) me well, but anything that holds the bow in place while pulling it down with some ratchet straps will do. Contrary to popular O it isn't rocket science even though we are shooting missiles. :)
 
nodog said:
UTGrad said:
The strings I have from Energy Wave currently on my bow have not rotated and I've probably put 1,000 shots. I have a buddy that still shoots a tube peep regardless cause if he had a B&C buck and couldn't see cause the peep rotated well...you can imagine.
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I've had that problem, never a huge problem just slightly off. I just bring the peep to my mouth and finish the rotation. no big deal. Never did it hunting, only when getting things ready to hunt. He should be more worried about the tube, them things are a pain.

For the OP, do your self a favor, get a press and learn to work on your own bow. Takes trial an error to get a bow shooting like silk, with a press you can do it. The peep will change with every change.

Lets say you always shoot low, the problem could be your lower limbs are weaker that the top and on release the top limbs are pulling the nock up. Adjusting the limbs will effect the rotation of the peep, not to mention the discrepancy is creating more noise and robbing the arrow of energy. The peep will need reset and that is done twisting the string...you need a press.

When you get rid of that tube you might here noises you couldn't before, you'll want to eliminate them, a shop won't put the time and effort into the task...you need a press. I made mine out of some 60 year old cherry, served (yuk yuk yuk :) ) me well, but anything that holds the bow in place while pulling it down with some ratchet straps will do. Contrary to popular O it isn't rocket science even though we are shooting missiles. :)
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You are right about learning how to work on your own�almost no one will take the time like you will. However, I very strongly disagree with the last part of your post. The modern parallel limb, and beyond parallel limb, bows are very easy to damage either the limbs, the riser or other critical pieces if pressed incorrectly�the days of some ratchet straps pulling a bow down against two solid pieces have long passed and it can be very damaging to the bow and/or the user. There are several affordable, and safe options, for pressing the modern compound bow.
 
I completely understand about having my own press. I know I asked a novice question, but on the contrary I'm not a novice to working on my bow. I have a press available to me so that isn't an issue. The reason for the novice question about strings and peep are solely because of the time I quit shooting. My bow was due for a string change when I put it up before military service. I didn't have much time to shoot while I was in so it just stayed packed up. Last year I broke it back out and within two days of tuning and getting prepped for some much needed love I wrecked my motorcycle. I spent a month and half in a sling I couldn't shoot my bow. I was just curious of what everyone's opinions of the tubeless peep and which strings were recommended because now I don't have a motorcycle lol and am safe to hunt. I will definitely take your advice, but I had already planned for new noises. I'm currently setting up two of my buddies to start their first years bow hunting also. My schedule is full right now, but I would love to see some first timers be successful this season. Thank you for the advice.
 
I definitely agree with you on that one. I've seen some horror stories unfold with improper pressing. It's a scary thought as to what some people will do to save a buck, and ruin a $700-$1000+ bow.
 
Problems with peep sights is why I got rid of them. Waste of money IMO. I have set several people up with the no peep and a few with the archery innvoations system and all of them wish they would have gotten rid of a peep sight years ago.
 
I've viewed the products you were talking about Headhunter, and I just don't think it's something I would like. I having everything working fluidly now except for the slap of my peep sight tube on my cables and strings.
 
I didn't either, but I when I first tried one (the timberline no peep) I installed it by myself. Horrible for installation is all I can say, it took me 2 hours. Learned quickly it is a 2 man job. After the 2 hour install (much quicker now, especially with the archery innovations product, measured in minutes not hours) I drew my bow back and noticed how sensitive it was. I was thinking I would never be able to shoot with it much less hunt. I went outside, finally got it to settle and shot, about 20 yards. I shot one more arrow and shot the back off of my first arrow. It only took a few shots to get the feel and now I would hate to be without it. I would not need pins but wish they made one I could put on a recurve. What so many do not understand is how many mistakes you can make with a peep sight. With the no peep products you even have to hold the bow with the same grip pressure, if you don't it will not line up. It forces you to draw and hold the same way every time.

I had many deer I never even got to shoot at because of a peep sight, tube broke, wouldn't line up, couldn't find pins, etc. None of that has ever happened with the no peep products and EARLY morning or the last few minutes of daylight it actually gets brighter.
 

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