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scn said:
Wildlife crime is largely viewed as a victimless crime.
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I suppose since very few politicians hunt, they really don't care much about game laws and hunting issues.

It's very frustrating when a TWRA office goes to court, only to have the judge act upset TWRA is wasting his time over something he thinks is a nothing-burger.
 
TheLBLman said:
I suppose since very few politicians hunt, they really don't care much about game laws and hunting issues.

It's very frustrating when a TWRA office goes to court, only to have the judge act upset TWRA is wasting his time over something he thinks is a nothing-burger.
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Not the one in my case, pretty quick guilty verdict and I listened to the ones before and after me get the same.
 
Omega said:
Not the one in my case, pretty quick guilty verdict and I listened to the ones before and after me get the same.
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At one time the ADA's in two of the counties I worked told us to talk to the lawyers or defendants and come back with the plea. Only one of the counties does that now.
 
Biggun4214 said:
At one time the ADA's in two of the counties I worked told us to talk to the lawyers or defendants and come back with the plea. Only one of the counties does that now.
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In my case, TWRA was the prosecutor, "graciously" offered to drop the no orange charge (my own property) if I plead guilty, told him to pound sand.
 
Wildcat#32 said:
actually i think it was stated the officer was only making the twra $10 or $20 for doing 2 or three hours work processing a ticket!!
also i apologize. the AVERAGE salary is 76,206 for a warden!! AVERAGE!!!! i previously stated 75,000!! my mistake!!
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no one wants to respond????? 🫣
 
Wildcat#32 said:
no one wants to respond????? 🫣
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scn said:
Yes, the fine ranges for all misdemeanors were set by a legislative sentencing commission and approved by the legislature. TWRA has zero say in the process.

The range for some of the Class B misdemeanors can go up to $500, but it is EXTREMELY rare to see a judge go past the starting point of the range. They can also include jail time. Again, it is rare to see that used by a judge. Wildlife crime is largely viewed as a victimless crime.
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I fought one and paid one, had a few warnings. The one I fought I got by with just a $25 fine. Judge believed me. The other I paid as I was guilty. The way it used to be was all the months tickets from the month before were settled in one day in the courthouse. Maybe the 4th Wednesday. Multiple GWs at court house. While hanging out there I saw a lady with a boat cushion she wanted to show the officers, she paid her ticket. There was another guy that had a littering ticket from the GW for a night crawler box and a couple of beer cans. He claimed they weren't his. It's a fun filled day. The thing that got me was you start for a roll call in the main court room with the people in jail in orange chained up and all the other riff raff. You realize then that you are lumped in with everyone else. They then split the ones up with TWRA tickets to see the DA, pay your ticket, or see the judge. The DA tried to bluff me into paying my ticket instead of seeing the judge on the one I fought. I told him I wanted a jury trial 🤣. He told me if it went to trial I could face 6 months in jail. Before you judge me : my high crimes have been a short fish ( gut hooked), kids not wearing life jackets in 1 ft of water anchored on a bluegill bed, hunting turkeys on day 10 of bait being removed from a feeder, the worst thing I ever did was not make the kids wear life jackets if you ask me but that was a warning.
 
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scn said:
There was no spin needed on my part. For someone to read what I wrote about the revenue stream from a citation and come up with even a hint of me saying an officer shouldn't do his/her job and write citations shows an absolutely ASTOUNDING lack of intelligence.

With the odds of you ever posting something remotely worth me reading being about the same as me winning the MegaMillion, you win the coveted green stripe and go in the file with the rest of the culls and idiots. Life is far too short to deal with your stupidity.
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I'm feeling the same about your Stupidity and arrogance. You even admitted in an earlier post that you were an Idiot. You told @Snake to use the ignore button on you like YOU do with other idiots. Sir you have spoken and removed ALL doubt.... If I were 1 of your "Tight Buddies" I'd change my name. I bet when you left the TWRA the workplace moral skyrocketed.
 
mike243 said:
Not sure what your trying to prove other than you don't know or care about the cost to run this state. All this

The only thing you have done is waste time and prove that TWRA loses money to write tickets, the court system is the folks who get the bulk and that's what all this useless typing was about TWRA getting rich from tickets. green strip lol
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Where does the proceeds from seized property go to? I've been to a Court House Steps sale but don't remember..
 
Hawk103161 said:
Where does the proceeds from seized property go to? I've been to a Court House Steps sale but don't remember..
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There was some problems that arose from that system dealing with who bought guns etc. Confiscated items are sold through General Services online and I think only FFL holders are allowed to buy guns. I don't think items sell for as much now.
I sold a Marlin 22 that had a bad case of road rash once for almost $200. New ones were about $100.
As far as I know General Services disturbs the money to the seizing agency.
 
mike243 said:
So how many permits are written every season for each county? I suspect the property's next to the farms are not killing enough deer?. I'd like to see the numbers if they are public information.
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How about the farmers bragging of killing 100-150 deer a year on a single permit. Shot wherever they find them at night from the road
 
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tncowboy said:
How about the farmers bragging of killing 100-150 deer a year on a single permit. Shot wherever they find them at night from the road
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Why should a farmer lose a crop just to support deer hunters on nearby properties? 100+ deer hitting a crop field every day will end up being lost $ to the farmer and lost produce to all the rest of us, I wouldn't care if they had to shoot 100 a night to stop it, at some point fences that are deer proof are the only solution, are you going to pay for them or pay 1/2? With property for farming shrinking and our population rising every year at some point it will be critical for every harvest to be maximized.
 
Flintlocksforme said:
Here's the deer information. I hate it for the CWD area hunters. They said it was too complicated before. 17 counties still have earn a buck. I hoped it would be that way in the whole western unit.
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Can't believe they are grouping Unit 6 Anterless bag limits, especially gun season with the other surrounding units. I thought the 1 anterless limit the first 1-2 weeks of gun was plenty, but now you can kill 2 the whole gun season. I could see changing it to 1 the whole gun season but not 2. We also don't need 4 does during bow season. 2-4 Deer all season is plenty for a family of 3-4 people imo. Seems like they want us to make them extinct. I normally only take 1-2 deer a season and it is plenty for my wife and me.
 
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Headhunter said:
Why not? One year we killed close to 30 off of 150 acres, all does, no bucks. We saw more bucks the next year and for several more years than we ever had. .
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Removing 30 does represents 600 acres of deer based on avg deer density in Tennessee. In a similar situation, you may have negatively affected hunting for your neighbors who have different goals than you considering you only had 150 acres to work with.

Those 30 does (@1.8 offspring) represented roughly 325 potential future deer removed from the population over a 3 year period.

Lastly, of course you saw more bucks for several years after - you created a serious breeding vacuum. That doesn't mean it was a healthy choice for the deer herd (but maybe it was!).


I'm not criticizing your choice. Just offering some answers to your questions since you asked "why not?". You certainly killed more deer than could be accounted for by your 150 acres, with potentially unknown consequences to herd stability, neighbors' experiences and breeding competition for local bucks.

To reiterate, I'm not criticizing your choices.
 

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