Warmer Weather or longer days?

WORM82 said:
I have wondered if barometric pressure plays a role in situations like AT Hiker mentioned where u can have back to back identical days weather wise but one day they are on fire and the next they barely gobble.??

THIS is the answer you are looking for ! High pressure= gobbling deer movement and ducks flying.. low and steady pressure slows it way down.
 
jman 125 said:
WORM82 said:
I have wondered if barometric pressure plays a role in situations like AT Hiker mentioned where u can have back to back identical days weather wise but one day they are on fire and the next they barely gobble.??

THIS is the answer you are looking for ! High pressure= gobbling deer movement and ducks flying.. low and steady pressure slows it way down.

Im sure it plays a role but this is not a consistent thing either.

Its cool to discuss this but in all actuality we will never know, honestly I would rather speculate than know for sure. Thats what makes the hunting fun and gives me an excuse on why I didnt kill anything!!!!!
 
MickThompson said:
Photoperiod drives hormones. It's what tells deer to rut, turkeys to strut, and ducks to fly north in February.

So, middle and west TN get more light on the same days than east TN ;) ?

How do you explain the Plateau eastward usually running 1 1/2 to 2 weeks behind the rest of the state?
 
PalsPal said:
MickThompson said:
Photoperiod drives hormones. It's what tells deer to rut, turkeys to strut, and ducks to fly north in February.

So, middle and west TN get more light on the same days than east TN ;) ?

How do you explain the Plateau eastward usually running 1 1/2 to 2 weeks behind the rest of the state?
Difference in temperature and elevation.
 
PalsPal said:
So, middle and west TN get more light on the same days than east TN ;) ?

How do you explain the Plateau eastward usually running 1 1/2 to 2 weeks behind the rest of the state?
This has always been my argument for those who claim photoperiodism is the ONLY factor. The same argument can be made for any city that has same longitudinal position (E/W location), but different latitudinal position (N/S), such as Memphis, TN and Springfield, IL. Length of day is same for both every day of year, but the turkeys are 2-3 weeks behind in Springfield area, generally speaking, and even more behind the further north you go. I firmly believe weather and more importantly the ground temperature play an important role, especially the latter when it comes to nesting.
 
Andy S. said:
PalsPal said:
So, middle and west TN get more light on the same days than east TN ;) ?

How do you explain the Plateau eastward usually running 1 1/2 to 2 weeks behind the rest of the state?
This has always been my argument for those who claim photoperiodism is the ONLY factor. The same argument can be made for any city that has same longitudinal position (E/W location), but different latitudinal position (N/S), such as Memphis, TN and Springfield, IL. Length of day is same for both every day of year, but the turkeys are 2-3 weeks behind in Springfield area, generally speaking, and even more behind the further north you go. I firmly believe weather and more importantly the ground temperature play an important role, especially the latter when it comes to nesting.

Could also be from the original location the stocked turkeys came from.
 
Andy S. said:
PalsPal said:
So, middle and west TN get more light on the same days than east TN ;) ?

How do you explain the Plateau eastward usually running 1 1/2 to 2 weeks behind the rest of the state?
This has always been my argument for those who claim photoperiodism is the ONLY factor. The same argument can be made for any city that has same longitudinal position (E/W location), but different latitudinal position (N/S), such as Memphis, TN and Springfield, IL. Length of day is same for both every day of year, but the turkeys are 2-3 weeks behind in Springfield area, generally speaking, and even more behind the further north you go. I firmly believe weather and more importantly the ground temperature play an important role, especially the latter when it comes to nesting.


I will be interested in hearing the responsed from this....I agree with you.
 
Photoperiod is no doubt the triggering factor in breeding. Turkeys strut, deer rut, and ducks migrate regardless of weather. The activity we see of these animals is based more on weather conditions. I kept track of weather conditions and hunting report a few years ago. My experience with keeping that record showed that barometric pressure seemed to have the most effect on turkey activity. Keep in mind barometric pressure is a direct relation to the weather conditions, so therefore rain conditions is usually with low pressure and so most usually associate rainy days with bad hunting. Keep in mind I'm not saying don't hunt with low pressure, I'm just talking of the peak activity was high pressure, not saying there was no activity in low pressure. I think ground temperature effects the nesting time based on research I have read. So late spring means later nesting which means birds grouped together longer. Grouped up birds means tougher hunting for me. I also think later nesting results in better poult survival based on normal weather conditions, especially my area of bottom land that is prone to flooding in early spring. With all my studying and stressing turkey activity I have learned one certain thing, if you don't go you want kill one.
 
The turkey's breed and gobble when they want to, and we pretend to know how it all works....two years ago made me a liar on photo period, as the warm weather had it all over before it started.i have no idea
 
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