You can't make it up

[TreyB]

Where do you guys draw the line? For all of you that are high and mighty and only sit on your butt and only use a call there's another group of guys somewhere saying yall aren't hunters because they don't use calls at all. Are all of yall using blackpowder muzzle loading shotguns or are yall allowed to use modern day guns? Do your birds taste different? What about the guys who only use bows? Are those guys cool or are they bad for the sport? Are yall allowed to walk to where your hunting or do you have to crawl your way through the muck and mud? Are pictures allowed or is that a no no? If everyone else is doing it differently and you don't consider it hunting then what the heck are they doing? Is there a name for it? Do yall know where I can get one of those trucks? Do you know if the remote control for it has a range of all east 66 yards?

Good post.

 

[Tennessee Lead]

I'm looking at turkey hunting as a whole....

Others are too. The difference is many of them have 25-30 years in the turkey hunting woods, so they have a lot of years of experience when comparing/discussing this newer approach to turkey hunting, where it "seems" that A LOT of the hunters (many that I know and are friends with) are all about the kill, with the least "hunting" effort possible, and then posting on social media to show off their latest accomplishment. What most of the old/older heads are trying to say is if one would take the time to learn how to call them to the gun and kill them at 20-40 yards (adrenaline rush, your heart pounding, on pins and needles trying to determine their final approach, etc), with a fair amount of blood, sweat and tears, then he or she would most likely have a better understanding, and more importantly, a better appreciation for the sport as a whole.

Very well said Andy.


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[Setterman]

We'll quite frankly you aren't if that's the way you hunt turkeys. Sorry, but that style of hunting isn't a challenge and small children can stake a decoy out and wait for a gobbler to run in.

Exactly what skill does it take?

Sorry that's not sporting enough for you old chap (English accent implied)... I don't use decoys, never have. I don't use a blind, I like to move, but if people want to do it, then so be it. Now I will ambush or bushwhack the heck out of a turkey and i assure you it takes woodsman-ship skills to do so. Sometimes you get lucky and see one coming your way before he sees you and you just have to wait on him, but usually he is in the field with 3-5 hens and you have to devise a plan on how to use the terrain and cover to close the gap without getting caught by some of the best eyes in the woods.

The best eyes in the world are even harder to fool when they're looking for the hen you're pretending to be.

Following an entire flock into gun range by convincing them youre another turkey is not easy

Calling a gobler away from hens is not easy

Picking the perfect set up to call a bird into range so he doesn't hang up on terrain, open ground where he doesn't see a hen, or not allowing him the chance to circle out of sight are not easy

Those are turkey hunting, bushwhaccking one walking by isn't turkey hunting. It's turkey shooting, and all about the Facebook photo not the hunt

 

[Bone Collector]

I'm not talking about sitting there waiting for one to walk by. I'm talking about spot and stalk. meaning you belly crawl, and do what ever you have to to use the terrain and cover to close the gap on the turkeys.

There are no two ways around it. That is hunting at the primal level.

 

[Setterman]

I'm not talking about sitting there waiting for one to walk by. I'm talking about spot and stalk. meaning you belly crawl, and do what ever you have to to use the terrain and cover to close the gap on the turkeys.

There are no two ways around it. That is hunting at the primal level.

Why not fool those birds into thinking you're another turkey? Is that too difficult?

 

[Bone Collector]

that's why I hate all duck hunters, those idiots use so many decoys I cant stand it!! I mean its not even fair!!

I hope this shows up and plays...

https://youtu.be/wZjCBUm7xfY

 

[Bone Collector]

I'm not talking about sitting there waiting for one to walk by. I'm talking about spot and stalk. meaning you belly crawl, and do what ever you have to to use the terrain and cover to close the gap on the turkeys.

There are no two ways around it. That is hunting at the primal level.

Why not fool those birds into thinking you're another turkey? Is that too difficult?

Sometimes. In the beginning I never even carried a call, because I knew I'd scare the turkeys away :lol: I started calling last year and so far have done ok with it, but if I am calling and they aren't budging, and I think I can put the sneak on them, then why not. Again, that is hunting at the primal level.

 

[Setterman]

I'm not talking about sitting there waiting for one to walk by. I'm talking about spot and stalk. meaning you belly crawl, and do what ever you have to to use the terrain and cover to close the gap on the turkeys.

There are no two ways around it. That is hunting at the primal level.

Why not fool those birds into thinking you're another turkey? Is that too difficult?

Sometimes. In the beginning I never even carried a call, because I knew I'd scare the turkeys away :lol: I started calling last year and so far have done ok with it, but if I am calling and they aren't budging, and I think I can put the sneak on them, then why not. Again, that is hunting at the primal level.

I hear ya, and bottom line is we just things differently. Doesn't mean we are bad dudes or anything

 

[Woodsman10]

I don't think this is what turkey hunting is supposed to be about.

Setterman may be a cocky dude, but I have pretty much agreed with everything he says, as well as the other posters on here that are my style.

We probably wouldn't be experiencing turkey decline if every jack leg didn't limit out in a field and blind with a strutter the first week of the season.

Now guys that didn't kill turkeys can easily kill 4.

No I have never hunted from a blind or used decoys, but I know for fact it's easier.

I'd be more for shooting them over bait than I would be strutting decoys, at least the ones that don't get killed get to eat.

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[Tennessee Lead]

I don't think this is what turkey hunting is supposed to be about.

Setterman may be a cocky dude, but I have pretty much agreed with everything he says, as well as the other posters on here that are my style.

We probably wouldn't be experiencing turkey decline if every jack leg didn't limit out in a field and blind with a strutter the first week of the season.

Now guys that didn't kill turkeys can easily kill 4.

No I have never hunted from a blind or used decoys, but I know for fact it's easier.

I'd be more for shooting them over bait than I would be strutting decoys, at least the ones that don't get killed get to eat.

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Lol! I like it.


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[Bone Collector]

I'm not talking about sitting there waiting for one to walk by. I'm talking about spot and stalk. meaning you belly crawl, and do what ever you have to to use the terrain and cover to close the gap on the turkeys.

There are no two ways around it. That is hunting at the primal level.

Why not fool those birds into thinking you're another turkey? Is that too difficult?

Sometimes. In the beginning I never even carried a call, because I knew I'd scare the turkeys away :lol: I started calling last year and so far have done ok with it, but if I am calling and they aren't budging, and I think I can put the sneak on them, then why not. Again, that is hunting at the primal level.

I hear ya, and bottom line is we just things differently. Doesn't mean we are bad dudes or anything

I know. I just have a different perspective on it. Based on last year and calling in two hens that brought me two toms, i pretty much just want to call them in, but you never know when the old Ninja will try to come out. :lol:

 

[Roost 1]

I think fads like this will die with the natural progression of the hunter. Just about all inexperienced turkey hunters just want to kill a turkey (legally). Then they mature to where they want to kill a bunch. These first two groups of people are the ones buying this stuff. They just want to be successful any way they legally can. Once they molt to a more experienced turkey hunter they look for those memorable hunts where the gobbler responds to every call and marches right in to the end of a gun. Not too many years ago I was all about killing one with whatever legal means necessary. Now, if they aren't playing the game that I want them to; there's always tomorrow!

I'll be glad when the baiting fad passes!!! I've been waiting for many years and it seems to just get worse.

 

[Roost 1]

Stand your ground Setterman, some of us agree 100% with what you are saying.

 

[megalomaniac]

Different strokes for different folks....

My Papaw (who was literally starving during the Depression) taught me to never shoot flying doves, and only shoot them after they landed on a powerline or branch. Same thing with a covey of quail... never flush the covey, follow behind and wait till they line up and shoot 6 or 7 with one shot. When he was a kid, shells were 5c each, and you couldn't waste them. But hunting WASN'T a sport to him. It was only about exchanging the 5c shell for something worth more than 5c... supper.

Sometime after killing hundreds of doves and hundreds of quail between age 5-12 something clicked inside me and I realized it just wasn't a challenge to sneak up on a covey of quail and kill half of them in one shot. I actually had more fun busting the covey and shooting only one or two. And I had a LOT more fun shooting a box of shells to kill 5 flying doves than shooting 5 shells to kill 5 doves sitting on branches.

Don't get me wrong... back in the day, I killed turkeys just about any way I could. But for the past 10 or 15 years, I've just lost my desire to kill them and would much rather experience the hunt itself. Heck, I would actually prefer NOT to kill the turkey at the end of the hunt, just so I could do it all over again the next day and the day after that with the same bird.

If someone wants to bushwack one, or fan one into suicide, I don't have a problem with that. I just hate seeing those folks doing it over, and over, and over, and over to get their 4 birds in the first week of the season before the hens have even been bred.

 

[Setterman]

Mega made a great point that I totally agree with. That anymore as much I think I love the kill, I wish I could roll them over after the shot and hunt them again

 

[timberghost3591]

I would buy one and drive it around the neighbor hood just to see what people would do. I know there is one guy who would prolly shoot the crap out of it!!! lol

 

[PalsPal]

Mega made a great point that I totally agree with. That anymore as much I think I love the kill, I wish I could roll them over after the shot and hunt them again

Some actually don't shoot, and come back the next day to play with him again!

 

[Mudbone]

I am going to cut my 3/4 acre of grass this spring and summer with a pair of plastic scissors to gain the respect of setterman.

 

[catman529]

I am going to cut my 3/4 acre of grass this spring and summer with a pair of plastic scissors to gain the respect of setterman.

no, just kill it all...apparently fescue kills baby turkeys...lol


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[FARMTOFIELD]

I am going to cut my 3/4 acre of grass this spring and summer with a pair of plastic scissors to gain the respect of setterman.

no, just kill it all...apparently fescue kills baby turkeys...lol


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Fescue is crappie for all widlife especially ground nesting birds