Youtube turkey videos?

catman529":3b879v83 said:
I dont think there are any decoys or blinds in any of my videos. It is tough to film in the woods, I will admit those blind/field/decoy setups make for some great videos. But it's not my preference so I stick with the call, gun and camera. I did get some good footage of Fleet Fox calling in and killing a bird last year that I didn't have to bother with the shooting, so I could just focus on the camera.
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Jonathan, I hope you have another great season and get em on the camera, too! We'll be looking for it.
 
catman529":lpcl4rwe said:
I dont think there are any decoys or blinds in any of my videos. It is tough to film in the woods, I will admit those blind/field/decoy setups make for some great videos. But it's not my preference so I stick with the call, gun and camera. I did get some good footage of Fleet Fox calling in and killing a bird last year that I didn't have to bother with the shooting, so I could just focus on the camera.
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I've already watched your videos,Cat. And I enjoy them. I did quite a bit of filming when I was in college. A buddy of my was associated with a show on the pursuit channel so he had really nice equipment. And I agree, it's tough getting everything on the same page hunting in the woods, but it's so much cooler when you know he's coming and expecting to see him any second. Like TN Lead's fourth kill from last year. How cool was that.
 
I have 2 up on youtube...they are a bit long but that's why there is a fast forward button, one i called over 500 yds blind. The second is me handing my nephew a call and said "hey im following you, im just recording." he didnt know what to do lol but he called up his first bird and got it done on the very last morning of season last year.
 
That's funny you ask this question! I too have loved watching YouTube hunting videos over the years and even have some on DVD, but it is very difficult to find one where they actually hunt turkeys. I know this is a very sensitive topic too. Decoys are legal, so use them if you want to, and I won't bash you for using them. It literally takes almost no actual hunting skill to kill turkeys with decoys though. It really surprised me to see all my buddies from Primos and Knight and Hale using decoys for practically every hunt they post now! These guys taught me a lot in my early days of turkey hunting on how to call and set up and hunt in general.

I do wonder though. Has the hunter success rate gone up dramatically since the advent of decoys..especially the full strutters. It would seem to me that the success rate would double or triple using the strutters, but do the statistics show that to be true? I have tried to get the data, and just haven't found it yet anywhere. If the rates have held steady over the years, does that mean that decoys haven't had an impact on the actual number of turkeys killed? If they are the same, would those who killed turkeys still have killed them without decoys? In my very limited experience of actually talking with hunters and knowing them and listening to them talk about hunting, those who I myself know that use decoys, couldn't have killed their birds without a decoy. Each and every time I hear their story it's the same...went out to the pasture put out the decoys before light sat down and waited till one came in and killed it. This IN MY OWN OPINION is not hunting, just killing. I'm not bashing. This is me trying to get folks to learn more and try harder to get to know how to hunt and develop skills that will last a lifetime. Take the time to learn about turkey habits and woodsmanship. I have never, and pray I never will, belittle anybody for using decoys. I will, however, encourage as best I can to learn some skills, in one area of life that will produce benefits in other areas of life.
 
poorhunter":1l0x5odp said:
It would seem to me that the success rate would double or triple using the strutters, but do the statistics show that to be true?
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Don't know of any readily available statistics but my thought is perhaps it just makes it easier to kill a tom. I know of several folks that by their own admission "don't know a lot about turkey hunting" that scratch out a bird or 2 by doing nothing more than sticking dekes in the ground and popping up a blind in the field. They hack out a few yelps on a box and wait. One guy has a pot call but I honestly don't know if uses it for fear of tipping off a gobbler that would otherwise march right on in the whip the plastic imposter.

Maybe they would have killed the same bird or 2 without a decoy but using one might simplify things and make up for "not knowing a lot about turkey hunting" (their words not mine).
 
My thoughts on tent hunting and fanning are well documented (#StandWithSetterman) and have gotten me banned recently, so I will refrain. But what pisses me off for purposes of this thread are the guys that can turkey hunt, and used to sell calls and made great professional videos calling turkeys to the gun, now sell decoys and only make videos decoying field turkeys. The primos guys now set up strutter decoys even when the rarely do set up in the woods.
 
I don't like them either, and I'm sure it has raised the success ratio.
I try not to bash, but I wish people would try to not use them. It is way more fun as well.

It's why it's turkey hunting and not deer or duck hunting

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Southern Sportsman":r5496ia5 said:
The primos guys now set up strutter decoys even when the rarely do set up in the woods.
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...and Salter, Morrett, Waddell, Drury, Jordan and the list goes on and on. I may be wrong but thought perhaps for the producers, using decoys is less about getting the bird into gun range and more about laying down good quality video footage?
 
Boll Weevil":1nm138zk said:
Southern Sportsman":1nm138zk said:
The primos guys now set up strutter decoys even when the rarely do set up in the woods.
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...and Salter, Morrett, Waddell, Drury, Jordan and the list goes on and on. I may be wrong but thought perhaps for the producers, using decoys is less about getting the bird into gun range and more about laying down good quality video footage?
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I think its more about pimping the product with the highest profit margin. The new decoys are expensive and presumably make the companies more money than calls. Custom calls are hugely popular now. Used to everybody either used a lynch, primos, or K&H calls. Now calls likely make up a much smaller portion of the big companies business. There are so many good calls now that a video doesnt distinguish. Decoys are still easily pushed by putting them in every camera angle and showing turkeys sprinting to them.

Plus it's easier to make videos from a tent in a field.
 
Southern Sportsman":echo5hab said:
Boll Weevil":echo5hab said:
Southern Sportsman":echo5hab said:
The primos guys now set up strutter decoys even when the rarely do set up in the woods.
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...and Salter, Morrett, Waddell, Drury, Jordan and the list goes on and on. I may be wrong but thought perhaps for the producers, using decoys is less about getting the bird into gun range and more about laying down good quality video footage?
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I think its more about pimping the product with the highest profit margin. The new decoys are expensive and presumably make the companies more money than calls. Custom calls are hugely popular now. Used to everybody either used a lynch, primos, or K&H calls. Now calls likely make up a much smaller portion of the big companies business. There are so many good calls now that a video doesnt distinguish. Decoys are still easily pushed by putting them in every camera angle and showing turkeys sprinting to them.

Plus it's easier to make videos from a tent in a field.
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Yep. Cha-Ching.
 
Yep it gets mundane seeing all the videos filmed from in a blind over a few decoys. Yes it makes some of the best video footage, and makes more money for the companies that sell the decoys. It makes perfect sense why they do it, but it does get old to someone like me who has watched a lot of videos for the enjoyment of turkey hunting.

I rarely watch turkey bowhunting videos because 90% of them are from a blind with decoys 10 yards in front of the blind. I have found a couple good videos though where a guy will sit up against a brush pile or something and manage to whack an arrow into a bird without a blind or anything. There are still plenty of good videos being put out with some more traditional style turkey hunting, they just don't get as much attention as a close-up shot of a big tom beating up a decoy.
 
catman529":os804jrx said:
Yep it gets mundane seeing all the videos filmed from in a blind over a few decoys. Yes it makes some of the best video footage, and makes more money for the companies that sell the decoys. It makes perfect sense why they do it, but it does get old to someone like me who has watched a lot of videos for the enjoyment of turkey hunting.

I rarely watch turkey bowhunting videos because 90% of them are from a blind with decoys 10 yards in front of the blind. I have found a couple good videos though where a guy will sit up against a brush pile or something and manage to whack an arrow into a bird without a blind or anything. There are still plenty of good videos being put out with some more traditional style turkey hunting, they just don't get as much attention as a close-up shot of a big tom beating up a decoy.
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If you come across any good ones, share us the link.
 
The decoy bs has absolutely increased hunter success and to a huge degree. So many gobblers are getting killed that would've survived that it is affecting hunting. So many hunters that have no chance at a bird have success because of the decoy crutch.

I despise the tent hunting decoy stuff, I've tried to understand it, and even did it last year and it's a joke. It is not turkey hunting and should be outlawed immediately. Hell bait is more challenging then that garbage.

The number of traditional hunters is dwindling rapidly, and the numbers of baby crawlers, tent sitters, and plastic turkey toters has increased dramatically. Luckily there's a few of us left and every year those are the ones who consistently provide the best advice, tips, and guidance on this forum because they're the only ones who know turkeys and how to kill them without a crutch.

I just hope that someday soon decoys are illegal as they were in AL when I was living there, that was a much better time. This era sucks and the hunters are becoming sucky as well in their approach and attitudes.
 

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