TNDeerGuy
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You cannot�both BN and Hunter class have the same requirement�a fixed-pin sight that cannot be moved. Your only option would be one of the Open classes or K45 if you wanted to stay with a adjustable sight.
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bowhunter163
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I just called the ASA office to verify and he said you can shoot a multi/ or single pin adjustable sight as long as it is locked down and is not moved . ( Although you will be at a disadvantage with a single pin) . They said to just make sure your group knows what you are doing and explain beforehand that it is not going to be moved , maybe even show them where it's set at the start . He also told me to tell UTGrad to set it at about 23-24 yardsTNDeerGuy said:
because that's around the average . I knew I had heard that somewhere . I told them while I was on the phone that they needed to clarify that in the rules a little better .
Also he said if at anytime it comes out of adjustment , you cannot move it back . You will have to call a break down to go move it and then come back .
TNDeerGuy
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bowhunter163 said:I just called the ASA office to verify and he said you can shoot a multi/ or single pin adjustable sight as long as it is locked down and is not moved . ( Although you will be at a disadvantage with a single pin) . They said to just make sure your group knows what you are doing and explain beforehand that it is not going to be moved , maybe even show them where it's set at the start . He also told me to tell UTGrad to set it at about 23-24 yardsTNDeerGuy said:
I knew I had heard that somewhere . I told them while I was on the phone that they needed to clarify that in the rules a little better .
Also he said if at anytime it comes out of adjustment , you cannot move it back . You will have to call a break down to go move it and then come back .
Good to know, but curious as to when they changed it. That is not what the National Director and a member of the Competition Committee has said in the past. I'm glad for UTG's sake that I was wrong and you were correct.
bowhunter163
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I'm not saying that you were wrong . Maybe you could call again and get a different answer , but the guy I talked to was .... Ahh . I forgot his name but its the guy that does all the announcing at the Pro Ams and award presentations .TNDeerGuy said:bowhunter163 said:I just called the ASA office to verify and he said you can shoot a multi/ or single pin adjustable sight as long as it is locked down and is not moved . ( Although you will be at a disadvantage with a single pin) . They said to just make sure your group knows what you are doing and explain beforehand that it is not going to be moved , maybe even show them where it's set at the start . He also told me to tell UTGrad to set it at about 23-24 yardsTNDeerGuy said:
I knew I had heard that somewhere . I told them while I was on the phone that they needed to clarify that in the rules a little better .
Also he said if at anytime it comes out of adjustment , you cannot move it back . You will have to call a break down to go move it and then come back .
Good to know, but curious as to when they changed it. That is not what the National Director and a member of the Competition Committee has said in the past. I'm glad for UTG's sake that I was wrong and you were correct.
Great discussion. Bow sights are expensive these days so it would be nice if one can shoot their hunting sight locked down. If Bow Novice maxes at 30 yards than I don't see any problems shooting one pin. 40 yards can get tricky.
I used a CBE Tek Hybrid when I shot B.N. I had 3 pins on it and had the slider part of it locked down. You can indeed have them as long as you don't adjust them. Some guys have target sights with pin housings just for the extra length of the sight bar.
Crow Terminator said:
Yeah I was thinking of your sight in particular. The CBE Tek Hybrid is a multi pin slider. If you lock it down its just a multi pin sight. My Ascent is a single pin slider so asides from pin count no difference.
Rickym
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You can use that sight, you just can't move it. I have had buddies shoot hah 1 pins in bow novice.. just can't move it..
DixieCrafter
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[/quote] I'm not saying that you were wrong . Maybe you could call again and get a different answer , but the guy I talked to was .... Ahh . I forgot his name but its the guy that does all the announcing at the Pro Ams and award presentations . [/quote]
That would be Mike Terrrell that you spoke to, he is the OWNER of the ASA.
This from the ASA rules:
[color:#FF0000]Open Classes: May use any compound or recurve bow, sight, release, stabilizer or equipment unless specifically prohibited in any other part of these rules, or by a ruling of the Competition Committee. Overdraws do not designate shoot class or shooting style. Sight type and/or release type is the determining factors for all non-Open classes[/color].
TNDeerGuy is right, I have heard both the National Director of the ASA, Dee Falks, and a member of the competition committee, Roy Duncan say that you can't use a moveable sight in non-open classes. Furthermore in 99 out of 100 cases when you show up to register for most shoots that moveable sight on your bow will place you in an open class. If you mistakenly move the sight you risk being DQ'd! Why take the chance?
I agree that this rule needs further clarification and I will pursue this in hopes that the rule is further clarified!
That would be Mike Terrrell that you spoke to, he is the OWNER of the ASA.
This from the ASA rules:
[color:#FF0000]Open Classes: May use any compound or recurve bow, sight, release, stabilizer or equipment unless specifically prohibited in any other part of these rules, or by a ruling of the Competition Committee. Overdraws do not designate shoot class or shooting style. Sight type and/or release type is the determining factors for all non-Open classes[/color].
TNDeerGuy is right, I have heard both the National Director of the ASA, Dee Falks, and a member of the competition committee, Roy Duncan say that you can't use a moveable sight in non-open classes. Furthermore in 99 out of 100 cases when you show up to register for most shoots that moveable sight on your bow will place you in an open class. If you mistakenly move the sight you risk being DQ'd! Why take the chance?
I agree that this rule needs further clarification and I will pursue this in hopes that the rule is further clarified!
Well that sucks lol
bowhunter163
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I'm not saying that you were wrong . Maybe you could call again and get a different answer , but the guy I talked to was .... Ahh . I forgot his name but its the guy that does all the announcing at the Pro Ams and award presentations . [/quote]
That would be Mike Terrrell that you spoke to, he is the OWNER of the ASA.
This from the ASA rules:
[color:#FF0000]Open Classes: May use any compound or recurve bow, sight, release, stabilizer or equipment unless specifically prohibited in any other part of these rules, or by a ruling of the Competition Committee. Overdraws do not designate shoot class or shooting style. Sight type and/or release type is the determining factors for all non-Open classes[/color].
TNDeerGuy is right, I have heard both the National Director of the ASA, Dee Falks, and a member of the competition committee, Roy Duncan say that you can't use a moveable sight in non-open classes. Furthermore in 99 out of 100 cases when you show up to register for most shoots that moveable sight on your bow will place you in an open class. If you mistakenly move the sight you risk being DQ'd! Why take the chance?
I agree that this rule needs further clarification and I will pursue this in hopes that the rule is further clarified![/quote]
I completely understand what the rule book says , and I too have heard it both ways . I was just relaying the information I got when I called the ASA office a few days ago . They said you can use it as long as you don't move it . They said you do run the risk of being DQ'ed if it is moved . But he said he can shoot at a pro am in the novice or hunter class although he would be at a disadvantage .
That would be Mike Terrrell that you spoke to, he is the OWNER of the ASA.
This from the ASA rules:
[color:#FF0000]Open Classes: May use any compound or recurve bow, sight, release, stabilizer or equipment unless specifically prohibited in any other part of these rules, or by a ruling of the Competition Committee. Overdraws do not designate shoot class or shooting style. Sight type and/or release type is the determining factors for all non-Open classes[/color].
TNDeerGuy is right, I have heard both the National Director of the ASA, Dee Falks, and a member of the competition committee, Roy Duncan say that you can't use a moveable sight in non-open classes. Furthermore in 99 out of 100 cases when you show up to register for most shoots that moveable sight on your bow will place you in an open class. If you mistakenly move the sight you risk being DQ'd! Why take the chance?
I agree that this rule needs further clarification and I will pursue this in hopes that the rule is further clarified![/quote]
I completely understand what the rule book says , and I too have heard it both ways . I was just relaying the information I got when I called the ASA office a few days ago . They said you can use it as long as you don't move it . They said you do run the risk of being DQ'ed if it is moved . But he said he can shoot at a pro am in the novice or hunter class although he would be at a disadvantage .
There are a lot of sight manufacturers offering multi pin slider configurations. I'm thinking of going to a 3 pin slider. Wonder if ASA will reconsider in the future. I agree you shouldn't be able to adjust it during a shoot.
I shot a CBE Tek Hybrid, which is a slider sight and it had a housing that held fixed pins. I podium finished in Florida and they checked my bow, etc. No disqualification. So you CAN use the slider sights...as stated earlier, you just can't move them. They must be locked down.
Rickym
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You will be fine.... Just don't move it...If you go to a ASA shoot you will be hooked... Lol
DixieCrafter
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UTGrad said:
There are lot of things manufactured....but they ain't all legal in all classes. There are some things you can't shoot even in an open class.
The next time you are at OHLBC, look up Roy Duncan. Everybody knows Roy! Roy, is one of (5) members of the competition committee that MAKE the rules and REVIEW and EDIT ASA rules, and review protests. Then look up Dee Falks the President of OHLBC and the National Director of the ASA. You can ask them about any of the rules and for clarification.
Most people who get really comfortable with a single pin slider have a hard time going back to a multi-pin sight picture and especially the older we get. Spot Hogg probably makes the best multi-pin slider out there!
There's always Open C to try................
What Ricky said about go once and you're hooked? Dat's da Truuf!
Used to take lessons from Dee
DixieCrafter
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really??? How did that work out?UTGrad said:
