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RobbyW":2vewozd1 said:
Bet this thread is true next week. No way you fire him before Bama.


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Why not? Does anyone really think having Jones on the sideline as opposed to an Interim OC or DC head coach gives them any better chance of beating Alabama? I'm not trying to be a smarta$$ I am serious. I think at this point Jones is more of a program on the team than an asset.
 
Heck, bring Fulmer back as Interim Coach for the remainder of the year, or offer the Interim job to Peyton Manning--both of those would at least bring some excitement back to the program. Don't you think the players would be stoked to play for Manning or Fulmer?
 
BamaProud":3frdk1z0 said:
RobbyW":3frdk1z0 said:
Bet this thread is true next week. No way you fire him before Bama.


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Why not? Does anyone really think having Jones on the sideline as opposed to an Interim OC or DC head coach gives them any better chance of beating Alabama? I'm not trying to be a smarta$$ I am serious. I think at this point Jones is more of a program on the team than an asset.

But what good does it do? Getting beat with or without him. I think TN would fold and say F it if they fired him. I think he finishes out the season. Unless he walks away.
 
BamaProud":ex6klzel said:
RobbyW":ex6klzel said:
Bet this thread is true next week. No way you fire him before Bama.


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Why not? Does anyone really think having Jones on the sideline as opposed to an Interim OC or DC head coach gives them any better chance of beating Alabama? I'm not trying to be a smarta$$ I am serious. I think at this point Jones is more of a program on the team than an asset.

Because you wouldn't do that to your interim. Firing you coach mid season is throwing in the towel. They know there is no chance for win. Waiting a week will just put the final nail in the coffin and convince that last booster


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TreyB":20n33jn2 said:
BamaProud":20n33jn2 said:
RobbyW":20n33jn2 said:
Bet this thread is true next week. No way you fire him before Bama.


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Why not? Does anyone really think having Jones on the sideline as opposed to an Interim OC or DC head coach gives them any better chance of beating Alabama? I'm not trying to be a smarta$$ I am serious. I think at this point Jones is more of a program on the team than an asset.

But what good does it do? Getting beat with or without him. I think TN would fold and say F it if they fired him. I think he finishes out the season. Unless he walks away.

Quicker you fire, quicker you can hire your search firm. You want to be the first team ready when the season ends


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I think it shows the fans, and more importantly the team, that the AD isn't satisfied with mediocre(or bad) coaching. It also allows potential candidates time to evaluate their current situations and make behind the scenes plans for a potential move. Not to mention it gives TN an advantage over other schools with potential head coach openings at the end of the season. There may be a flood of openings, resulting in a bidding war for the top candidates.
 
RobbyW":2qx7lz2d said:
TreyB":2qx7lz2d said:
BamaProud":2qx7lz2d said:
RobbyW said:
Bet this thread is true next week. No way you fire him before Bama.


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Why not? Does anyone really think having Jones on the sideline as opposed to an Interim OC or DC head coach gives them any better chance of beating Alabama? I'm not trying to be a smarta$$ I am serious. I think at this point Jones is more of a program on the team than an asset.

But what good does it do? Getting beat with or without him. I think TN would fold and say F it if they fired him. I think he finishes out the season. Unless he walks away.

Quicker you fire, quicker you can hire your search firm. You want to be the first team ready when the season ends


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U make a good point . It's hard to be out there looking for a head coach when you got a head coach. You can always put some assistant coach in a interim position that just limps the team along . Then keep your options open till the end of the season when all the firings occur. You mind find a big name from the pros pop up.


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I'm sure they have one in place already. No coach they are going after is gonna make it public anyway.
 
huntinkev":1uyvzr8c said:
I know it's great to be a bama fan right now. But reality, saban has been bad for college football and the SEC...great for bama though.

It's bama, rest of college and sec. The SEC has gone down a lot since saban. Schools are trying to hire someone to beat saban and in the process it has ran our conference in the ground. Saban has his pick of recruits before the rest of the country gets to chose.

College football and SEC will be a lot better off when saban retires.

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I agree with most of that but I don't think things will change immediately after Saban retires. I think Dabo Swinney will step right in at Alabama and continue the dominance. Dabo may not be as good as Saban, but with what Saban has created, maintaining the program for at least a few years shouldn't be hard for another 5 years or more. Heck, with the recruits there now, Les Miles could probably step in at Alabama and win for a few years(like he did at LSU).
 
The early signing period will have a big impact on what they do IMO. Already been said by some of the recruiting service guys that while TN has lost a few recruits already, there are a lot more that they could lose but they want to play for TN, not neccessarily Butch, and are waiting to see what happens.

Honestly, looking at how Butch has aged in his 5 years here and seeing his head on the brink of explosion on the sidelines, I think he has brought about all he physically can and could be ready to cut it short on his own. Wouldnt suprise me any if they are working on negotiating his buyout and thats why he isnt gone already. It was reported last year he was shopping himself around and thought he had something worked out with Purdue. Then he lost to Vandy and Purdue said na we'll pass. He didnt just fire his long time agent and hire Jimmy Sexton for no reason.


I also might add that the longer this goes on, new AD John Currie will start feeling the pressure also. Media will start writing pieces about why has he let it go this long. Fan support will seriously faulter. After the previous screw ups, I dont think Currie wants a screw up on his resume.
 
I think there are only three reasons to part ways with a head coach at mid season. First, and the only reason to do it, the coach has lost the locker room and there's a risk of key transfers, decommitments from recruits, etc. Fans don't play and don't matter. Boosters don't play but they pay so they matter some. The team and the lifeblood are what really matter and the decision has to be made based on the effect on the team. Second, you would only fire mid season if the coach you want isn't currently employed. Firing mid season doesn't give you a timing advantage for the "hot coach". He's employed and only his agent is talking to anyone. AD already has ideas and you can start the search now anyways because agents always listen. Maybe the AD likes who will be the interim. Third, you fire mid season because Butch feels his position is untenable and he wants to gain the timing advantage on his future and is willing to negotiate a deal over his buy out.

Probably a big mistake to fire Butch heading into Alabama.
 
The locker room is lost IMO. Scuffles breaking out weekly resulting in players being suspended and players missing PT from injuries incurred in said scuffles. At this point, I think there are players that have quit on Butch that are being disguised as injuries.
 
Kiffin would have won the east twice with the talent Butch has wasted.

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Scioto":1q5u3on3 said:
Probably a big mistake to fire Butch heading into Alabama.


Why? Do you think having Butch Jones on the sideline increases the chance of beating, or even scoring a few more points against Alabama, if someone else was there as an Interim coach?
 
RobbyW":3st8wsmd said:
BamaProud":3st8wsmd said:
RobbyW":3st8wsmd said:
Bet this thread is true next week. No way you fire him before Bama.


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Why not? Does anyone really think having Jones on the sideline as opposed to an Interim OC or DC head coach gives them any better chance of beating Alabama? I'm not trying to be a smarta$$ I am serious. I think at this point Jones is more of a program on the team than an asset.

Because you wouldn't do that to your interim. Firing you coach mid season is throwing in the towel. They know there is no chance for win. Waiting a week will just put the final nail in the coffin and convince that last booster


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Why not? The interim will probably be a coach all ready on staff. Interim will probably receive and nice bump in pay for handling HC duties. Interim gets to audition for the permanent HC job. And after the season the new hadcoach will probably let all the previous staff go anyways.

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