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BSK - Cherokee Nat Forest Deer Numbers?

More bears in NCWMA,less bear hunters,only one tag per,more sanctuaries,more aggressive bears,fewer deer….what seems to need more management here??🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️
 
More bears in NCWMA,less bear hunters,only one tag per,more sanctuaries,more aggressive bears,fewer deer….what seems to need more management here??🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️
And theyTWRA, flat refuse to do it!!! My biggest gripe with them is not killing problem brears! Instead of killing problem bears they turn them out on the rest of us in rural counties that dont want the things!!! Their is a reason KY VA And Ga i have put a hault to taking twra bears, they dont wont the nuisance either anymore
 
And theyTWRA, flat refuse to do it!!! My biggest gripe with them is not killing problem brears! Instead of killing problem bears they turn them out on the rest of us in rural counties that dont want the things!!! Their is a reason KY VA And Ga i have put a hault to taking twra bears, they dont wont the nuisance either anymore
I've seen this myself from a friend who had a nuisance bear that destroyed his back porch and a freezer he had on it. They trapped the bear alright, then took it and released it up in bledsoe co forest somewhere. Seems to me it'll just be someone else's nuisance.
 
Yeah I've heard of them trapping trash pandas out of GSMNP and the surrounding area and relocating them to Unicoi and Kettlefoot reserves up here. Only to have them make the trip back under a year. I know they are operating in a slippery slope since they don't want things to get out of hand again like the far east organ trade that almost wiped em out but this level of population doesn't seem to have any positive effect.
 
BSK and others,

Poser and I hunted Monroe County in the Cherokee Nat Forest for bear on Saturday. Having heard the discussion on here and looked at the harvest numbers we knew deer numbers are really low. We expected this to be because a lack of logging has led to wide open woods with little browse.

We were surprised by what we found. Poser hunted for a mile down a road that had recently been bulldozed. You could count the number of deer tracks he spotted in the mud on one hand. I walked one mile of a leaf covered logging road and found one possible scrape.

The deer sign was not a surprise but the cover was. The area was a lot thicker than we thought it would be. There was evidence of a major fire and an abundance of woody browse.

Why is it that those mountains don't hold more deer?
Poachers
 
I only hunt in the monroe county side of the wma. The last hunt I saw 10 deer in one day. The last day of the hunt quite a few nice bucks were killed. I only saw a spike. The other issue is there I'd very few people per acre hunting at any time period.
 
I agree with the bear also. Major problem. A good example is cades cove. Used to be a pile of deer and didn't see many bear. Now the switch has flipped. Right the opposite
 
We all know there's big old bucks in these mountains. Problem is there isn't a big number of deer period. Nothing to have 8 consecutive sits without seeing a deer. They have such a huge area to run. It could be a long time before they make it back to your setup. I do enjoy the challenge but sometimes it would encouraging to at least see deer more often. Even if you didn't shoot one. It would be easier to wake up before daylight and hike 2 miles.
 
We all know there's big old bucks in these mountains. Problem is there isn't a big number of deer period. Nothing to have 8 consecutive sits without seeing a deer. They have such a huge area to run. It could be a long time before they make it back to your setup. I do enjoy the challenge but sometimes it would encouraging to at least see deer more often. Even if you didn't shoot one. It would be easier to wake up before daylight and hike 2 miles.
Not bragging, but if I went 8 consecutive sits in the national forest without seeing a deer I'd quit hunting there! 10 percent of the national forest holds 90 percent of the deer. I pass a lot of deer just for the simple fact it will be hell to get one out of some of the areas I hunt. I do have some easy to get to areas that produce consistent deer sightings.
 
For starters, not having to hunt within a hundred yards of your neighbors house ;)
There isnt house in those mountains, so tell me what makes a "real" deer hunter? Since your the only one and love to run your mouth you should have no trouble explaining it to someone who is so ignorant like me.
 
There isnt house in those mountains, so tell me what makes a "real" deer hunter? Since your the only one and love to run your mouth you should have no trouble explaining it to someone who is so ignorant like me.
Reckon I won't have to worry about seeing you up there then. Without your neighbors bird feeders to pattern deer off of, you would be
sh#t out of luck in the "big woods". I won't deal with ignants, so I am done with you.
 
Reckon I won't have to worry about seeing you up there then. Without your neighbors bird feeders to pattern deer off of, you would be
sh#t out of luck in the "big woods". I won't deal with ignants, so I am done with you.
Come on you can do better than that surely, i thought you were the best in the land. Guess i will just have to keep shooting peoples pets full of bird seed since you wont help a poor ignorant fool as myself on how to be a "real" deer hunter. Cowhunter would be ashamed if you!
 
We all know there's big old bucks in these mountains. Problem is there isn't a big number of deer period. Nothing to have 8 consecutive sits without seeing a deer. They have such a huge area to run. It could be a long time before they make it back to your setup. I do enjoy the challenge but sometimes it would encouraging to at least see deer more often. Even if you didn't shoot one. It would be easier to wake up before daylight and hike 2 miles.
I will agree with this. Very tough hunting, but nothing more rewarding than killing a good buck up there. Real deer hunting, the way it was meant to be ;)
 
I'd be willing to bet that anyone who tells you they have never gone 4 or more consecutive days without seeing a deer up there is prolly lying.
 
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