Duke / Miami ending

[Vermin93]

I agree with BamaProud that you can't blame the refs for a loss.

Sure you can, especially given the control the officials have over the game. The saying about not blaming the refs is just a goofy cliche.

When you come back from 12 points down in the 4th quarter and score the go-ahead touchdown with 6 seconds left on the clock and the officials miss multiple calls on the ensuing kickoff return as time expires, you should absolutely blame the refs for a loss.

Thankfully, the incompetent crew got suspended by the ACC, which has admitted that Duke should have won the game.

 

[Scioto]

Never said I haven't seen the play.

I said I didn't see the game.

 

[Scioto]

I see what you did there.

 

[BamaProud]

Refs have to make judgement calls...humans are imperfect. You can nitpick every play, holding calls are particularly subjective, the precise place the ball is spotted on every down can make a big difference in over the course of a game. This case is a particularly bad case of a bad call...I admit that. However, things like this happen every weekend.

I still maintain, if a bad call/a no call, a bad spot of the football etc...it the difference in winning or losing a game, your team didn't do a very good job for the other 59 minutes 50 seconds of the game to set themselves up for a win. If Duke was up by 21 points instead of just 3, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Loosers blame the refs or other factors for loses...winners don't have too.

 

[buckaroo]

There was a flag for blocking in back, which is non reviewable. They had 9 minutes to see the players knee was on the ground, Then they pick up the flag of blocking in the back which the replay clearly showed. The refs should never work a game again and give Duke the win. It was totally on the refs, how can you win with those refs against you????

 

[BamaProud]

...how can you win with those refs against you????

It was a terrible call, and perhaps they should lost their jobs...that is for the ACC to decide. You win that game the way you win any game. By putting your team in a situation where a bad/missed call doesn't cost them the game. Again, if Duke was up by 21 points instead of just 3 we may still have had a bad call/nocall but the outcome would be different. That is the teams fault, not the refs.

 

[THEdonkey0515]

Bamaproud, I understand them missing split second judgement calls.

BUT when they take there time, and look at replays AND still miss calls???? That's easy to see??? Something is odd about that.

I looked at the replay 1 time on ESPN and seen the guys Knee was down?? Why could the fefs not do that?

Glad that crew got suspended HORRIBLE job calling that game.

 

[THEdonkey0515]

...how can you win with those refs against you????

It was a terrible call, and perhaps they should lost their jobs...that is for the ACC to decide. You win that game the way you win any game. By putting your team in a situation where a bad/missed call doesn't cost them the game. Again, if Duke was up by 21 points instead of just 3 we may still have had a bad call/nocall but the outcome would be different. That is the teams fault, not the refs.

It was not a bad call, It was bad CALLS like 5 lol.

I agree if Duke would have just made a tackle the game would have ended. O wait they did refs just didn't call it oke: even after looking at the replay.

He had his Team in position to win that game, Heck he won the game lol.

And everyone that watched 1 single replay of that play knew Duke won the game! Besides the refs it's there job to make the correct calls! That is what REPLAY is for!!! It was not hard to see?

Guess Duke should have just been up by 14pts??

 

[The_Utility_Dude]

Refs have to make judgement calls...humans are imperfect.

Loosers blame the refs or other factors for loses...winners don't have too.

Just to be sure I'm clear. Let's take the Tennessee Alabama game this year. Had the Refs awarded Tennessee two of the the three field goals they obviously missed and 'Bama loses the game by one, you'd be cool with that?

 

[PalsPal]

Just to be sure I'm clear. Let's take the Tennessee Alabama game this year. Had the Refs awarded Tennessee two of the the three field goals they obviously missed and 'Bama loses the game by one, you'd be cool with that?

Or better yet, on the "kick six" game with Auburn a few years ago, had there been a flag for a block in the back on Auburn, but yet the refs ended up picking up the flag, even though on replay it was clear, he wouldn't say a word and just accept it !

You play the game with rules. They are there for a reason (people CHEAT if no rules). The refs are responsible for enforcing the rules to ensure fair play. If you have ever played any sport at any competitive level (pretty clear that some have not), you want to compete on a level playing field. In a game with fairly even teams, one call can be the difference in winning and losing.

A blown call of this magnitude is inexcusable, and Duke should be awarded the W!

 

[THEdonkey0515]

What if Bama got blocked in the back many times, But still Clearly tackled the guy!!! While Auburn had 13 Men on the field? And still lost the game on the final play after the clear tackle was reviewed?

Bammers would have raised HECK!!!!!

And I promise saying something like " Its your Darn coaches fault he should have had the team up 10 or 14 points before that play took place, just in case the refs was to miss 7 or 8 calls on the return :roll: " would not go over so well with 99.9'/. Of bammers.

 

[buckaroo]

One of the best things lately to make the game fair has been the replay, they just turned it into a joke

 

[BamaProud]

Refs have to make judgement calls...humans are imperfect.

Loosers blame the refs or other factors for loses...winners don't have too.

Just to be sure I'm clear. Let's take the Tennessee Alabama game this year. Had the Refs awarded Tennessee two of the the three field goals they obviously missed and 'Bama loses the game by one, you'd be cool with that?

You will never hear me blame an official, the weather, the cheerleaders, or anything else for a loss.

Unless then end the game without any plays, "my team" has an opportunity to make the refs questionable calls, or negate the effects of the weather, or poor cheerleading. If they fail to do that and lose, it is what it is...a loss. IMO refs subjective calls are just part of the game. Sometimes they go your way, sometimes they don't. Its up to "my teams" offense to make those calls irrelevant by scoring points, and its up to "my teams" defense to keep the opponent from scoring points...also making the questionable calls irrelevant.

Loosers blame the refs or other factors for loses...winners don't have too. And I don't let losses bother me in the first place...its just a game. There are far more important things to get worked up over.

 

[BamaProud]

Bammers would have raised HECK!!!!!

Yep all fan bases have their crazy irrational fans...I am not one of them. I understand people make mistakes...and a loss doesn't impact me or my life in any meaningful way.

 

[BamaProud]

If you have ever played any sport at any competitive level (pretty clear that some have not), you want to compete on a level playing field.

Nope, never played at the high school nor college level. There are plenty of "football experts" in the media who never played as well. There is no requirement to be active in anything to become a fan, nor to become educated on its inter-workings. I've never been into outer space either, but I have in depth knowledge of astronomy.

Football isn't really a complicated game.

 

[mjac]

This is how rivalries start. I look forward to the teams next meeting.

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[buckaroo]

What is wrong with just doing the right thing, Give Duke the win, they deserve it, Miami does'nt. One of my pet peeves as a society we often take for friggin ever of just doing the right thing!!!

 

[TeamMainStreet]

Refs have to make judgement calls...humans are imperfect. You can nitpick every play, holding calls are particularly subjective, the precise place the ball is spotted on every down can make a big difference in over the course of a game. This case is a particularly bad case of a bad call...I admit that. However, things like this happen every weekend.

I still maintain, if a bad call/a no call, a bad spot of the football etc...it the difference in winning or losing a game, your team didn't do a very good job for the other 59 minutes 50 seconds of the game to set themselves up for a win. If Duke was up by 21 points instead of just 3, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Loosers blame the refs or other factors for loses...winners don't have too.

*Losers

 

[TeamMainStreet]

Refs have to make judgement calls...humans are imperfect.

Loosers blame the refs or other factors for loses...winners don't have too.

Just to be sure I'm clear. Let's take the Tennessee Alabama game this year. Had the Refs awarded Tennessee two of the the three field goals they obviously missed and 'Bama loses the game by one, you'd be cool with that?

You will never hear me blame an official, the weather, the cheerleaders, or anything else for a loss.

Unless then end the game without any plays, "my team" has an opportunity to make the refs questionable calls, or negate the effects of the weather, or poor cheerleading. If they fail to do that and lose, it is what it is...a loss. IMO refs subjective calls are just part of the game. Sometimes they go your way, sometimes they don't. Its up to "my teams" offense to make those calls irrelevant by scoring points, and its up to "my teams" defense to keep the opponent from scoring points...also making the questionable calls irrelevant.

Loosers blame the refs or other factors for loses...winners don't have too. And I don't let losses bother me in the first place...its just a game. There are far more important things to get worked up over.

*Losers

 

[TeamMainStreet]

If they cant do any better than what they did, why even have them.


Free for all. Last Boy Scout kinda game.



I have a hard time believing that If Alabama lost a game in that fashion, BamaProud would have absolutely nothing to say about it. BS.