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Duke / Miami ending

TeamMainStreet":2rh69moy said:
I have a hard time believing that If Alabama lost a game in that fashion, BamaProud would have absolutely nothing to say about it. BS.

Gotta agree. Any fan on the wrong side of a call like that would be bothered.
 
TeamMainStreet":29gqz3mj said:
BamaProud":29gqz3mj said:
Refs have to make judgement calls...humans are imperfect. You can nitpick every play, holding calls are particularly subjective, the precise place the ball is spotted on every down can make a big difference in over the course of a game. This case is a particularly bad case of a bad call...I admit that. However, things like this happen every weekend.

I still maintain, if a bad call/a no call, a bad spot of the football etc...it the difference in winning or losing a game, your team didn't do a very good job for the other 59 minutes 50 seconds of the game to set themselves up for a win. If Duke was up by 21 points instead of just 3, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Loosers blame the refs or other factors for loses...winners don't have too.


*Losers

Awww come on, you can't spell Loosers right on the Internet. Just like you always have to misspell grammar when correcting someones spelling. :) ;)
 
BamaProud":1n9otl6s said:
PalsPal":1n9otl6s said:
If you have ever played any sport at any competitive level (pretty clear that some have not), you want to compete on a level playing field.

Nope, never played at the high school nor college level.

Here is the problem. People that have never played the game have no idea the blood, sweat, work, dedication, and sacrifice it takes to compete and prepare, then to have it taken away by some assclowns in striped shirts and replay booths. I did not play football in college and I can only imagine how much more it takes to compete at a D1 college level. These kids put their souls into it everyday and they deserve a level playing field with competent officiating. It doesn't matter if the fans have more important things to get worked up about. The kids deserve better.
 
Does that include the TV/Radio talking heads? Only Sports? Or does it apply to other aspect of life. I'm sure it takes a lot of blood sweat and tears to become an astronaut...but I don't think you have to be an astronaut to understand space/space exploration.

Its a pretty simple game played by 18-22 year olds(not kids)...it isn't that complicated.

...nice selective quote by the way.
 
Spurhunter":b8r0c1zu said:
BamaProud":b8r0c1zu said:
PalsPal":b8r0c1zu said:
If you have ever played any sport at any competitive level (pretty clear that some have not), you want to compete on a level playing field.

Nope, never played at the high school nor college level.

Here is the problem. People that have never played the game have no idea the blood, sweat, work, dedication, and sacrifice it takes to compete and prepare, then to have it taken away by some assclowns in striped shirts and replay booths. I did not play football in college and I can only imagine how much more it takes to compete at a D1 college level. These kids put their souls into it everyday and they deserve a level playing field with competent officiating. It doesn't matter if the fans have more important things to get worked up about. The kids deserve better.
Agree 100% :tu:
 
BamaProud":2bem4yx4 said:
Does that include the TV/Radio talking heads? Only Sports? Or does it apply to other aspect of life. I'm sure it takes a lot of blood sweat and tears to become an astronaut...but I don't think you have to be an astronaut to understand space/space exploration.

Its a pretty simple game played by 18-22 year olds(not kids)...it isn't that complicated.

...nice selective quote by the way.

This is a sports forum. I believe that's why Spurhunters post applies here.
 
BamaProud":3p84rrc7 said:
Does that include the TV/Radio talking heads? Only Sports? Or does it apply to other aspect of life. I'm sure it takes a lot of blood sweat and tears to become an astronaut...but I don't think you have to be an astronaut to understand space/space exploration.

Its a pretty simple game played by 18-22 year olds(not kids)...it isn't that complicated.

...nice selective quote by the way.

You DO have to be an astronaut to understand what it takes to be an astronaut. Watching one on tv and reading some internet articles doesn't give you a sense of the dedication it takes. Besides, we aren't talking about astronauts, but that's a nice way to try to divert the conversation since you have no working knowledge of the topic. We are talking about amateurs that don't get paid. They deserve better. They deserve a level playing field. In my opinion 18-22 year olds that are still in school are kids by the way. Another nice diversion though. Maybe you can find an error in my grammar too, since you know nothing about the topic.
 
:rotf: He's an astronomer. There arent any loosers in that field. :rotf:


Now dont get all bent about it Bama, im just joking. :tu:
 
It was a travesty for Duke. A blown call. A horrible call by incompetent officials who should be fired, but also ACC officiating should be examined and determined how such a poor officiating crew could be allowed to exist in a Power 5 conference (any conference for that matter) and whether other incompetent officiating crews also exist in the ACC. Other conferences should similarly examine their crews to help guard against such travesties. Same goes for the replay official(s). I don't think anyone disagrees and believes the officials made the correct call and considers them to be sterling examples of the highest level of competency. Yes, I would be livid if this happened to Ohio State.

But, what are you going to do about it? Awarding the game to Duke would literally create a slippery slope of unimaginable consequences. That would open to the door for fans, alums, coaches, politicians, etc. to demand a similar remedy in future games when a bad call could have lead to the points that made the difference. This is not the first time. Remember the pitcher a couple years ago who lost a perfect game on an equally horrible blown call? All that could be done was an "I'm sorry." Overall, replay is a good thing, but I think it has created a situation where there is an expectation of perfection in officiating and, if there's a blown call, it won't matter because of replay. There was a level playing field with this game. Both teams competed against each other with the same lousy officiating crew. It is horrible what happened to Duke and it could have far reaching consequences for that program for the rest of the season. However, you can't award the game to them. The best that can be done is an apology, fire the officiating crew, investigate ACC officiating, including the head of officiating, and do whatever to make sure it doesn't happen again, but in a game played by humans and officiated by humans, it will happen again. Part of playing the game is dealing with bad calls and its just unfortunate that this bad call occurred on the last play of the game.

What about the Packers v Dallas game last year? What if Dez Bryant had been incorrectly awarded that catch? It was and remains a stupid rule in my view, but a rule nonetheless. What if the refs missed it and the replay missed it and ruled it a good catch? Instead of Cowboys fans up in arms about a stupid rule, should the Packers have been awarded the game because of a horrible blown call that meant the difference between who won and lost? Throughout history there's a laundry list of blown calls that have cost teams in all sports games, but officiating, good, bad and incompetent is a part of the game.

And yes, I did play college baseball and basketball and have been a member of teams who have lost games because of bad officiating, so I guess I'm allowed to speak on this issue.
 
OHVATN":1127e5qj said:
And yes, I did play college baseball and basketball and have been a member of teams who have lost games because of bad officiating

You should have played harder :) !
 
PalsPal":2pyenxw8 said:
OHVATN":2pyenxw8 said:
And yes, I did play college baseball and basketball and have been a member of teams who have lost games because of bad officiating

You should have played harder :) !

Actually, I should have played smarter. :D
 
Spurhunter":1os73be1 said:
BamaProud":1os73be1 said:
Does that include the TV/Radio talking heads? Only Sports? Or does it apply to other aspect of life. I'm sure it takes a lot of blood sweat and tears to become an astronaut...but I don't think you have to be an astronaut to understand space/space exploration.

Its a pretty simple game played by 18-22 year olds(not kids)...it isn't that complicated.

...nice selective quote by the way.

You DO have to be an astronaut to understand what it takes to be an astronaut. Watching one on tv and reading some internet articles doesn't give you a sense of the dedication it takes. Besides, we aren't talking about astronauts, but that's a nice way to try to divert the conversation since you have no working knowledge of the topic. We are talking about amateurs that don't get paid. They deserve better. They deserve a level playing field. In my opinion 18-22 year olds that are still in school are kids by the way. Another nice diversion though. Maybe you can find an error in my grammar too, since you know nothing about the topic.


A level playing field Really? There are tons of inequalities across college football. Facilities are different, Stadiums are different, recruiting is easier at some places, much harder at others. If it was truly about a level playing field, we would need to recruit via a random lottery system, play in a dome(to take weather out of games) on a neutral field, ensure the crowd is 50/50...I'm not sure how to standardize coaching...but we can surely agree that all coaching isn't equal. Despite what the NCAA preaches, the field is far from level in College football.
 
TeamMainStreet":1cmv2l36 said:
:rotf: He's an astronomer. There arent any loosers in that field. :rotf:


Now dont get all bent about it Bama, im just joking. :tu:

Don't worry, yer not gonna get me bent out of shape. I know my views on College foosball aren't mainstream...just a different perspective. Some people don't handle differences of opinion very well, I'm fine with it.
 
BamaProud":1ht26y76 said:
Spurhunter":1ht26y76 said:
BamaProud":1ht26y76 said:
Does that include the TV/Radio talking heads? Only Sports? Or does it apply to other aspect of life. I'm sure it takes a lot of blood sweat and tears to become an astronaut...but I don't think you have to be an astronaut to understand space/space exploration.

Its a pretty simple game played by 18-22 year olds(not kids)...it isn't that complicated.

...nice selective quote by the way.

You DO have to be an astronaut to understand what it takes to be an astronaut. Watching one on tv and reading some internet articles doesn't give you a sense of the dedication it takes. Besides, we aren't talking about astronauts, but that's a nice way to try to divert the conversation since you have no working knowledge of the topic. We are talking about amateurs that don't get paid. They deserve better. They deserve a level playing field. In my opinion 18-22 year olds that are still in school are kids by the way. Another nice diversion though. Maybe you can find an error in my grammar too, since you know nothing about the topic.


A level playing field Really? There are tons of inequalities across college football. Facilities are different, Stadiums are different, recruiting is easier at some places, much harder at others. If it was truly about a level playing field, we would need to recruit via a random lottery system, play in a dome(to take weather out of games) on a neutral field, ensure the crowd is 50/50...I'm not sure how to standardize coaching...but we can surely agree that all coaching isn't equal. Despite what the NCAA preaches, the field is far from level in College football.
I meant ON THE FIELD. BETWEEN THE WHITE LINES. But, again, you know nothing about what goes on between the lines. This ridiculous post proves it.

I think I'll go find a fly fishing forum to post in. I've never done it. I have no idea what it takes to do it. My ideas on it are completely ridiculous. But I watch it on tv so I must be an expert. I'll post asinine opinions just for the sake of argument. If they don't like my expert analysis I'll just say they can't handle a difference of opinion.

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BamaProud":ti5ij3s0 said:
Bad/questionable calls are part of the game. If a team is up by enough points bad/questionable calls don't matter. Blaming the refs is just an excuse.


Kinda incorrect, since that is what replay was designed to end... When they screw up after reviewing, it is ok to blame the refs. Not every game is a blow out and when it is a game changer, the refs NEED to get it right when it is obvious.
 
BamaProud":1vt9nkz2 said:
Bad/questionable calls are part of the game. If a team is up by enough points bad/questionable calls don't matter. Blaming the refs is just an excuse.

It isn't an excuse this time. The refs obviously blew this.
 
Anyone else think it ironic that the weatherman here is the only person arguing that mistakes are acceptable and expected?
 
wayne":1k2h1ckp said:
Anyone else think it ironic that the weatherman here is the only person arguing that mistakes are acceptable and expected?


Thats Funny. No where did I ever say it is acceptable. Do you have anything to add to the discussion or just veiled insults.

...its just an opinion, you girls get worked up too easily.
 
BamaProud":2of9eo6d said:
wayne":2of9eo6d said:
Anyone else think it ironic that the weatherman here is the only person arguing that mistakes are acceptable and expected?


Thats Funny. No where did I ever say it is acceptable. Do you have anything to add to the discussion or just veiled insults.

...its just an opinion, you girls get worked up too easily.


As long as he is 50% right... :rotf:
 

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