G8rntn
Well-Known Member
SEC is a new monster from Butch other gigs.
gator-n-buck said:Here's some #s
CM
8�6
8�5
11�2
Cincy
4�8
10�3
9�3
UT
5�7
PalsPal said:Wow, I didn't realize just how bad it has been. One has to wonder why Foley kept him.
Florida
On December 11, 2010, University of Florida athletic director Jeremy Foley named Muschamp to succeed Urban Meyer as the head coach of the Florida Gators football program.[9] In his first year as head coach, Muschamp led the Gators to a 7�6 record overall and a 3-5 record in the SEC. This was the first losing conference record for the Gators since 1979.
In 2011, Muschamp's Gators struggled on offense, ranking 98th in total offense and 83rd in passing offense. Muschamp's Gators earned a 24�17 Gator Bowl victory over the Ohio State Buckeyes playing under a lameduck coach. The following spring, Muschamp brought in the No. 5 recruiting class in the nation according to Scout.com. However, the class had no top offensive talent and only two offensive linemen.
In 2012, Muschamp led the Gators to an 11�2 season with four wins over teams that were ranked among the top twelve of the BCS standings at the end of the regular season, including Texas A&M, LSU, South Carolina, and Florida State. The season also included a near loss to a non-BCS school Louisiana-Lafayette and a loss to Georgia in which Muschamp's Gators scored no touchdowns, costing the Gators the SEC East Division Title. The season ended with a disappointing 23�33 loss to the Louisville Cardinals in the Sugar Bowl. Although the 2102 Gators had a top defense, the season was primarily hampered by the lack of offensive output again. In 2012 the Gators offense ranked 97th in total offense and 116th (out of 124 teams) in passing offense. The following spring, Muschamp brought in the No. 7 recruiting class in the nation according to Scout.com.
In 2013, Muschamp led the Gators to a 4�8 season. This was Florida's first losing season since 1979. Muschamp again had a losing record in the SEC, 3-5. This made Muschamp the first Gators coach to have two losing SEC records since the 1950s. This also ended a 22-year bowl streak that dated back to 1991 when the Gators came off probation. The season included two particularly humiliating losses. The first was a homecoming to Vanderbilt (their first loss to Vanderbilt since 1988 and first at home since 1945). Muschamp's Gators also lost to an FCS team, Georgia Southern. This was the first loss to a lower division team in the history of the program. Muschamp also failed to win a game against traditional rival Georgia in his first three attempts and has a record of 1�2 versus rival Florida State. In 2013, the Gator defense was again one of the best in the nation, ranking eighth in total defense. However the Gator offense was again ineffective and widely criticized, ranking 114th nationally in total offense and 107th in passing. After the season, despite widespread calls for Muschamp's firing, University of Florida athletic director Jeremy Foley brought Mushcamp back for another season in 2014. The following spring, Muschamp's Gators brought in the No. 9 recruiting class, which trailed five other SEC teams and rival Florida State.
PalsPal said:gator-n-buck said:Here's some #s
CM
8�6
8�5
11�2
Cincy
4�8
10�3
9�3
UT
5�7
Looks like improvement at each place to me. Thanks for the confidence builder!
Back to the ORIGINAL post (which was so deftly avoided by the resident lizards), the Gator's recruiting class is taking a hit with several more decommits. No offensive players want to go there, and FSU and Miami are stockpiling.
Bruce, how about an average recruiting class rank compared to Muschamp's winning % in his years at UF ? (I'm sure you have those handy).
gator-n-buck said:Here's some #s
CM
8�6
8�5
11�2
Cincy
4�8
10�3
9�3
UT
5�7
Total record: 55�34
The 4-8 record came after a 12-1 season from the former coach. Conference record was 12-9 at Cincy...
The point I'm making is that time will tell and those #s just don't jump off the page if you consider his former coaching gigs...
Jones' winning % .618
Muschamps winning % .579
The difference.... Muschamps has been done in the SEC... Not Central Michigan or Cincy.....
One other thing that jumps off the page.... Butch only normally hangs around for approx. 3 years.... Could this be a pattern... Time will tell....
PalsPal said:gator-n-buck said:Here's some #s
CM
86
85
112
Cincy
48
103
93
UT
57
how about an average recruiting class rank compared to Muschamp's winning % in his years at UF ? (I'm sure you have those handy).
THEdonkey0515 said:Hahaha nice signature.take my bet lol. I'm not betting $200 if u do $50 on both its a deal???
gator-n-buck said:PalsPal said:gator-n-buck said:Here's some #s
CM
86
85
112
Cincy
48
103
93
UT
57
how about an average recruiting class rank compared to Muschamp's winning % in his years at UF ? (I'm sure you have those handy).
Recruiting rankings for Muschamp..... (Rivals)
Rivals
2011 - # 12
2012 - # 3
2013 - # 4
2014 - # 8
ESPN
2011 - #12
2012 - #4
2013 - #2
2014 - #6
His classes avg. rating in the Country - # 6.75 or # 6
Want me to do CBJ avg. recruiting rating for his HC career.... ??? Never mind, I would prove my point again.....
THEdonkey0515 said:I bend your way said I would do both bets? You got to meet me in the middle? Can't be all your way?? Just take the bet??
gator-n-buck said:gator-n-buck said:PalsPal said:gator-n-buck said:Here's some #s
CM
86
85
112
Cincy
48
103
93
UT
57
how about an average recruiting class rank compared to Muschamp's winning % in his years at UF ? (I'm sure you have those handy).
Recruiting rankings for Muschamp..... (Rivals)
Rivals
2011 - # 12
2012 - # 3
2013 - # 4
2014 - # 8
ESPN
2011 - #12
2012 - #4
2013 - #2
2014 - #6
His classes avg. rating in the Country - # 6.75 or # 6
Want me to do CBJ avg. recruiting rating for his HC career.... ??? Never mind, I would prove my point again.....
I just did Jones recruiting avg. HC.....
#5
#71
#50
#49
#113
#98
#108
Avg.... Class rankings #70.5.........
gator-n-buck said:Recruiting rankings for Muschamp..... (Rivals)
Rivals
2011 - # 12
2012 - # 3
2013 - # 4
2014 - # 8
ESPN
2011 - #12
2012 - #4
2013 - #2
2014 - #6
His classes avg. rating in the Country - # 6.75 or # 6
THEdonkey0515 said:Lol I've told u I would do atleat 3 different bets, and u are scared to take any of them lol. Then start asking people why they won't take your bets?? Well u won't take mine??? So what gives u the right to tell anyone there scared? For not taking a bet when u have turned down more then one??
PalsPal said:gator-n-buck said:Recruiting rankings for Muschamp..... (Rivals)
Rivals
2011 - # 12
2012 - # 3
2013 - # 4
2014 - # 8
ESPN
2011 - #12
2012 - #4
2013 - #2
2014 - #6
His classes avg. rating in the Country - # 6.75 or # 6
PERFECT, and thank you so much. It made my point perfectly !
Muschamp's corresponding less-than-stellar records with those astonishing recruiting classes. They don't seem to jive !
2011 7-6
2012 11-2
2013 4-8
PalsPal said:gator-n-buck said:Recruiting rankings for Muschamp..... (Rivals)
Rivals
2011 - # 12
2012 - # 3
2013 - # 4
2014 - # 8
ESPN
2011 - #12
2012 - #4
2013 - #2
2014 - #6
His classes avg. rating in the Country - # 6.75 or # 6
PERFECT, and thank you so much. It made my point perfectly !
Muschamp's corresponding less-than-stellar records with those astonishing recruiting classes. They don't seem to jive !
2011 7-6
2012 11-2
2013 4-8