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For you that have killed deer that was CWD positive

Bull_TN said:
CWD has not made the jump from cervids to other species that we know of, but Mad Cow disease is a very similar disease. Mad Cow did make the jump to humans. My two cents, the more contact humans have with these CWD prions, the higher the chance is that it makes the jump too.
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This is true. Only a couple hundred people contracted mad cow out of millions of pounds of mad cow meat sold over years. Who knows what it will take for CWD to make the jump to humans, maybe never. But, the odds increase as CWD migrates across the country. Hopefully, we never find out.
 
double browtine said:
I can't remember what country it was, but they tested a paw paw fruit and it came back positive for covid! I think this CWD has been around for along time also. In my opinion, scientists have to come up with tests, to test for the things they discover. Most people know that the PCR tests for covid are not 100 percent accurate. I would guess that they are 50% accurate at best.
I'm thinking that these CWD tests are about the same thing.
I think CWD is like global warming. GW was just an idea to through money at and a way for the government to through money around the world on our tax dollars.
Remember the mad cow and chicken flu. Killed a lot of animals to drive the price up.

With the fake news media, it's hard to believe anything anymore!
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Your last comment is what's wrong with this country! Nothing is believed anymore and probably for good reason. Everyone is skeptical of almost everything. How does one decide the truth of the matter? Does the truth matter? Yes, I believe it does. We all have confirmation bias and tendency to believe what we want to. Many people believe if there is any money involved it must be false or faked. And finally, if the government says it's so, then for sure it's not. Where does that leave us?

If you go online and watch the dozen steps over several days with expensive lab equipment and trained technicians to test for CWD, you might be convinced that the tests are accurate. But then again, probably not.
 
fairchaser said:
This is true. Only a couple hundred people contracted mad cow out of millions of pounds of mad cow meat sold over years. Who knows what it will take for CWD to make the jump to humans, maybe never. But, the odds increase as CWD migrates across the country. Hopefully, we never find out.
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There are studies that may indicate a genetic susceptibility to mad cow, which may be why the numbers were low.
 
FLTENNHUNTER1 said:
I'm with you. All these people throwing away their deer should save you and I the backstraps...we can do a road trip with all our coolers and pick them up. It would be well worth the trip bringing home 400 lbs. of back straps...and that is just what would fit in my coolers!
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I'm up for it buddy, If they'd save us the hams , I've got a big meat grinder if you like burger!
 
fairchaser said:
This is true. Only a couple hundred people contracted mad cow out of millions of pounds of mad cow meat sold over years. Who knows what it will take for CWD to make the jump to humans, maybe never. But, the odds increase as CWD migrates across the country. Hopefully, we never find out.
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206 people got MCD from around 38 million that ate infected meat.
 
CWD is real. CWD has not been in cervids (deer) until it jumped the species barrier when mule deer were held in the same Colorado facility that had held infected sheep prior. Scrappie, the name of the disease in sheep, has been around for a long time, as sheepherders in Europe described the disease in early writings 1,000 years ago. So far, no human has contracted the disease from eating infected deer. The disease occurs natural in humans at a rate of 1 in 1,000,000 people. The prion from a naturally occurring case is different than what it would be from a cross-species infection (so researchers can tell the difference between a naturally occurring case and one caused by contact with an infected animal).

We do not have enough data to know whether any deer are naturally resistant to the disease, but without question, some will be found who are so. The question is, what percent of deer?
 
If you're not willing to eat a deer that tests positive then you shouldn't be hunting in a known infected area. What a waste of meat and an unnecessary waste of life to kill that animal just to throw it away. My personal opinion but I find that to be completely unethical hunting.
 
Chiflyguy said:
I do and don't think twice about it.
My buck last year I never even got tested.
Up to you.
Between freezing and cooking I'm sure you're good.
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Unless your cooking your meat to ash, you are aren't impacting the prions. They are not alive. They are proteins that can withstand over 1,500 degrees (Fahrenheit). Freezing is just preserving the prions.
 
Just FYI, there is a human version of CWD. It's called Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD), link below. Those of you thinking about CWD as a living organism that is going to have to make a substantial evolution to start impacting humans are not understanding how it works. Think about these prions (proteins) as a substance that if it contacts your nervous system, it tricks your nervous system to create more of it while breaking down the nervous system at the same time. CWD and CWJ are very close to the same protein. For your body to mistake one for the other isn't hard to imagine because these prions have jumped species multiple times in our lifetimes.

Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, Classic (CJD) | Prion Diseases | CDC

www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov
 
Bodine270 said:
If you're not willing to eat a deer that tests positive then you shouldn't be hunting in a known infected area. What a waste of meat and an unnecessary waste of life to kill that animal just to throw it away. My personal opinion but I find that to be completely unethical hunting.
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It's unethical to me to let a disease spread uncontrollably across our state further hurting hunting recruitment and ensuring our way of life is gone in a few generations.
 
timberjack86 said:
Kill em all!! The sky is falling!!
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Sarcasm noted, but do you know the only time in human history we have stopped (not slowed) the spread of CWD in cervids? The Netherlands found CWD in a caribou heard. They used machine guns from helicopters to wipe out every animal in the heard, burned the animals, and buried them. Then they setup a program to keep any cervids out of that area for five years. So, that worked. It wasn't popular, but it worked. You got a better plan than sitting around watching this spread across the state?
 
Chiflyguy said:
I'm just saying are there any cases it's been transmitted to humans.
I bet 90% the people here have eaten CWD positive deer.
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I would doubt that, think it would be a much smaller percentage. The spread of the disease across the state didn't start until recently and is currently only proven to be in less than one third of the counties. Sounds like a pretty good portion of members here, who are in the cwd areas, are having their deer tested. I had my last two tested, deer I killed in 2019 and the one I killed this year. Still waiting on the results from the deer I killed this year

Bodine270 said:
If you're not willing to eat a deer that tests positive then you shouldn't be hunting in a known infected area. What a waste of meat and an unnecessary waste of life to kill that animal just to throw it away. My personal opinion but I find that to be completely unethical hunting.
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I spend a lot of my time between skinning quartering butchering and packaging the deer we kill. To throw it out for a positive test would be a real kick in the nuts. I don't shoot a deer with intentions of not eating it.

I don't think a person hunting is in any way unethical because they kill a deer and wait for test results before eating what they killed, and then deciding whether or not it is safe to feed their family. Labeling another unethical based on YOUR opinion does noone any good. There must be some reason authorities and experts are agreeing that humans should not be consuming deer that are infected. Could they be being overly cautious, probably. Is it worth that risk to have my child or wife develop a wasting disease, no way. That is my opinion though and I respect your right to have yours.

Seems to be some interesting parallels to opinions on this and the covid vaccines.

Been some very interesting and some enlightening posts here, have to question though, what credentials some posting may have. Admittedly I don't know enough about the potential for a jump or transmission of this to say I know for certain it cannot happen. I do know for certain after watching my mother suffer with dementia, and seeing first hand how some degenerative neurological diseases can be extremely cruel, that I do not want my family dealing with such.

And I don't eat or feed my family processed meats nor fast foods either. I grind our burger from sirloin tip roasts that I trim, no pink slime fed to family.
 
Bodine270 said:
If you're not willing to eat a deer that tests positive then you shouldn't be hunting in a known infected area. What a waste of meat and an unnecessary waste of life to kill that animal just to throw it away. My personal opinion but I find that to be completely unethical hunting.
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And your opinion means squat to me. Hunting today is nothing more than a management tool, so whether I consume what I kill or not, that animal is just as dead. Any attempt to justify it in other ways thru ethics arguments or emotions is the same arguments used by anti hunting groups around the world.
 
Bull_TN said:
Sarcasm noted, but do you know the only time in human history we have stopped (not slowed) the spread of CWD in cervids? The Netherlands found CWD in a caribou heard. They used machine guns from helicopters to wipe out every animal in the heard, burned the animals, and buried them. Then they setup a program to keep any cervids out of that area for five years. So, that worked. It wasn't popular, but it worked. You got a better plan than sitting around watching this spread across the state?
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Are we going to build a fence around west TN? The only way this could possibly work is building the fence. Is that your plan?
 
timberjack86 said:
Are we going to build a fence around west TN? The only way this could possibly work is building the fence. Is that your plan?
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What are your thoughts on CWD timber?
Do you think it's real?
Do you think it kills deer and has wiped out populations?
Are you of the mindset to just let nature do her thing and there's not a thing conservationists can change?
Do you believe this is just a money ploy from the agency and insurance agencies?

It hasn't directly effected me yet but it's mind boggling the amount of people who just don't care and continue on with sarcasm and immature statements.
 

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