AlabamaSwamper
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Can't kill what isn't there.
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woodsman04
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REN":wfw56ufc said:
You wouldn't be alone from me...
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At this point last year 8200, this year 4277. If that rate continues, total harvest will be just short of 13000? I can believe it if the rest of the state is like my corner of Hickman County. This kind of dramatic decline must be a computer glitch right? Let's see what the numbers are after the second weekend.
If it's a computer glitch it's putting the numbers at about 50%...I'm not a computer glitch specialist but that just sounds like a odd glitch to me.
Either way, I hope it is a glitch.
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Either way, I hope it is a glitch.
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Setterman
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poorhunter":1u6s7f7w said:
I've spent the last two mornings in complete silence. There's no sign, no talk, the woods are turkey free. These are places that historically you could hear 20 birds on a perfect morning like today.
There is a glitch and it's in the minds of the management team over turkeys. We've probably hit the point of no return for many many years unless there's drastic changes
Is it just me, or is the TWRA Hunters Toolbox junk at the moment? I have tried accessing it several times over the last week, on different computers, and different browsers, all to no avail. If you have a website, especially a live database website for public use, maintain it properly, or take it down. It's very frustrating to say the least.
REN":2nnvgjaq said:
Your plan worked on me! I still love it but havent hunted in the past 3 years, and only 1 time the year before. 3 years ago was the last time I had a single turkey on trail cam and haven't seen or heard one in that time either. The 1 time I hunted 4 years ago, I decide to try public. Had a bird gobbling on the limb about 500yds away. After I eased my way in his direction and got set down I hear a truck crank behind me and start driving towards him. He flies down in my direction and we start talking. Every time he gobbles the truck starts, drives closer, stops and listens again. So I shut up hoping he will come but not gobble. He is slowly heading my way at about 80yds but won't shut up. One of the guys from the truck crawls up from behind him and shoots him, sprints out to grab him heads back to the truck and spins tire out of there before I even really grasp what happened. That was enough for me on the public around here. I enjoy reading everyone's stories now.
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I had been hunting that public ground for years, with some great experiences and many others similar to that one. I realized that day I didn't care to be involved in those incidents any longer.
Andy S.":14hpr9mn said:
I've been using it off and on basically daily without any problems to check harvest data. I have gone back through the past couple years, and the progress of the harvest reports this year matches the progress in past years...through the first six days of the season, roughly 33% of the total harvest each year. If that holds for this year, we are looking at a total harvest of 13000. That is a problem. Is it because the website sucks or nobody checks in anymore? I don't know, but I can speak about the virtual collapse of the turkey population in my area practically overnight. Fall/winter of 2017.
TheLBLman
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Just to add another observation:
Do you think the State of Kentucky is dramatically different (in terms of turkey habitat, potential turkey populations, turkey hunters,etc.) than the State of Tennessee?
My thinking is "no", not a huge difference.
Interestingly, the state turkey managers in KY believe the season should have fewer days, open later, and have half the limit of Tennessee's turkey season.
Why do their "statewide" thoughts on turkey management differ this much?
Do you think the State of Kentucky is dramatically different (in terms of turkey habitat, potential turkey populations, turkey hunters,etc.) than the State of Tennessee?
My thinking is "no", not a huge difference.
Interestingly, the state turkey managers in KY believe the season should have fewer days, open later, and have half the limit of Tennessee's turkey season.
Why do their "statewide" thoughts on turkey management differ this much?
TheLBLman":scoh6xz2 said:
They care about their turkey flock in KY and are at least willing to try something to halt the decline. In TN, the data for the "study" is more important as your turkey population circles the bowl. Beyond disgusted.
Setterman
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KY has always been a step ahead of TN in game management. The deer management destroyed ours and we adjusted long after them. The cold water fisheries management makes ours look Mickey Mouse. And the turkey management and forethought makes ours look laughableTheLBLman":3a4dx4rw said:
Who with the TWRA is to blame for making these terrible management decisions? Is it the commission? Serious question here.scn":234n8uq9 said:
Folks, I'm really concerned here. Are we really talking about going from 31000 to 13000 total harvest in two years? Like I've said before about where I live and hunt in Hickman County, the turkey flocks have about gone to nothing compared to when I moved here six years ago. I went from having farms that had a total of 30-40 toms to hunt, to now these same farms have a total of 5-10, and the big drop was in 2017. There were less in the spring of 2017 than previous years, but last spring was astounding the difference.
By the way, I will not kill a turkey this spring around here until at least April 20.
Mike Belt
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Just wondering... does TWRA feel the same about the thoughts on hunter observations on game numbers during hunting seasons concerning deer versus turkey? I know deer have AM and PM movements versus turkey primarily moving during the AM, and that may make a big difference considering us "laymen" don't really know what we're seeing.
Southern Sportsman
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SEC":bm4gs1l3 said:
Yes, it's ultimately up to the Commission. But they are getting bad advice somewhere.
ImThere
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Should we copy there deer regulations also?TheLBLman":2zbb87l4 said:
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Setterman
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ImThere":e8f1garp said:
I've all but quit deer hunting so I don't really care, but I never was much of a fan of the 1 buck limit. I prefer two bucks with the second having restrictions like Georgia's regs
