HB 1618

chris1976 said:
Ok, just hear me out. What if I rented equipment and spent weeks clearing out a few one acre plots in the woods. I kept them mowed and maintained all season. Then once season arrives instead of throwing some seeds on the ground I just broadcast corn. No piles, no turkey killing mold, deer no more concentrated than if it were a planted plot and I can replenish or not as season goes along. What would the argument be against this?
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I plot provides nutrition long after season is closed. I plant mine just for late winter nutrition.
 
turkey32 said:
how much. is it enough to matter in this equation!!! my little bit dont really but i really dont wanna listen to a state government agency that has let our turkey population decline so bad its down to two weeks later on opening date and 2 birds less!!
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They are also the agency that brought them back. How soon we forget. It should have never been 4 in my opinion.
 
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DoubleRidge said:
Who lives on .5 acres in a subdivision?
and whos telling others how to manage their land? Not me? I'm sharing why I'm against baiting and sharing better options for all wildlife....chainsaw gas is money well spent vs. a sack of corn.

And not that its has any bearing on this conversation but I own and pay taxes on the farm where I live....and I manage our family farm that was my grandfathers and now my fathers...my farm is in greenbelt under agriculture and our family farm is in greenbelt under forestry....so I understand land ownership and paying taxes...what I dont understand is how this relates to the practice of baiting and whats best for wildlife?
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what it means to me is doing whatever i want on said property that i paid money for and pay money yearly to just keep it. if you evet own land i would think anyone would understand.
DoubleRidge said:
And the simple answer is yes...go back one page and see post #380 where I explained it very clearly.
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still didnt answer the question. how much do you own. not how much u manage for family. if thsts the case i can double my acreage
 
turkey32 said:
what it means to me is doing whatever i want on said property that i paid money for and pay money yearly to just keep it. if you evet own land i would think anyone would understand.
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oh I understand...you want to do whatever you want because you pay taxes. I get it.

And I do what I want on my land...I just dont have any interest (or a need) to bait deer.

So you believe that there should be no laws pertaining to the wildlife that walks on your property? Right?
 
turkey32 said:
still didnt answer the question. how much do you own. not how much u manage for family. if thsts the case i can double my acacreage
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Whats your point? Has this become a competition for you? When discussing if baiting should be legal or not please explain why its important for you to know how much land I own? Your good at asking questions, but not great at answering them? Whats next? Compare annual salary's? Whats your point? Seriously? Im talking about whats best for wildlife and why Im not in favor of baiting....I dont care how much acreage you own...because its none of my bussiness and it adds nothing useful to the conversation.
 
What am I missing, I see nothing about it on the net since Feb 24, is this just wishful thinking or is there another recent link, far as I can see it's a dead duck not worth talking about.
 
Hillbilly Hunter said:
They are also the agency that brought them back. How soon we forget. It should have never been 4 in my opinion.
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What exactly did TWRA do to bring back deer and turkey populations? Reintroduction and regulations?

Their own website touts the deer restoration. By their estimates there were 2000 deer in the entire state of TN in the 1940's and close to a million by the year 2000. That's a 50,000% increase in roughly 40 years. Hard to believe there aren't more factors. They introduced 9000 deer into the state from 1940-1985. An average of 200 deer per year.


From 1940 to 1985 over 9,000 deer were released into various counties and wildlife management areas of Tennessee. Coverage of the state was relatively complete during this effort, and deer populations were successfully established statewide (Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency 1991).

Because of restoration initiatives, effective game laws, and wise management, the deer herd in Tennessee has increased dramatically from approximately 2,000 deer in the 1940's to an estimated 900,000 animals in 2005. To date, the majority of the herd exists in middle and western Tennessee, while densities in the Mississippi River counties, the Cumberland Plateau, and far eastern portions of the state remain below desired levels.
 
Pisses me off that twra has always stated they were in charge of the wildlife, Government couldn't touch funds ect, looks like the government can speed the spread of CWD, looks like they could file a suit to stop this?
 
mike243 said:
Pisses me off that twra has always stated they were in charge of the wildlife, Government couldn't touch funds ect, looks like the government can speed the spread of CWD, looks like they could file a suit to stop this?
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TWRA executes the wildlife laws of the state. Nothing more.

If state law says thou shalt bait, TWRA has no grounds to challenge the law. The state Constitution doesn't care if a law is good for wildlife or not.
 
Strict said:
What exactly did TWRA do to bring back deer and turkey populations? Reintroduction and regulations?

Their own website touts the deer restoration. By their estimates there were 2000 deer in the entire state of TN in the 1940's and close to a million by the year 2000. That's a 50,000% increase in roughly 40 years. Hard to believe there aren't more factors. They introduced 9000 deer into the state from 1940-1985. An average of 200 deer per year.


From 1940 to 1985 over 9,000 deer were released into various counties and wildlife management areas of Tennessee. Coverage of the state was relatively complete during this effort, and deer populations were successfully established statewide (Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency 1991).

Because of restoration initiatives, effective game laws, and wise management, the deer herd in Tennessee has increased dramatically from approximately 2,000 deer in the 1940's to an estimated 900,000 animals in 2005. To date, the majority of the herd exists in middle and western Tennessee, while densities in the Mississippi River counties, the Cumberland Plateau, and far eastern portions of the state remain below desired levels.
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A guy a leased off of in Giles about 25 - 30 years ago said he remembered when they brought the first deer into Giles Co. Think he said near his place it was in the early 60's . He said they used to go to Lewis Co. to hunt deer ...talk about a turn around !
 

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