I'm hanging it up..

[Andy S.]

Sage advice here. Don't give up on your MZer yet, new glass and rings and I think you will be well on your way to continued success. For me, a rest is almost always required if shooting beyond 50 yards. I know my limitations shooting freehand. Best of luck going forward.

 

[TN Song Dog]

Son borrowed and never been right since?
JK... New scope and you be back in business.

 

[Tn_Va_Hunter]

What powder and bullet combo are you using.

 

[Jcalder]

What powder and bullet combo are you using.

This would be my next question if you're not getting blood trails

 

[Bgoodman30]

Sage advice here. Don't give up on yor MZer yet, new glass and rings and I think you will be well on your way to continued success. For me, a rest is almost required if shooting beyond 50 yards. I know my limitations shooting freehand. Best of luck going forward.

I am thinking you're right. I get all tore up on shooter bucks and turkeys for sure.. 2 of these shots came from lock on's with no rest.

 

[Bgoodman30]

This would be my next question if you're not getting blood trails

Hornady SST , triple 7 100 gr

 

[Bgoodman30]

Son borrowed and never been right since?
JK... New scope and you be back in business.

Right even though I carried it since he was 10...

 

[251Native]

As others have said, you have a ring, scope or both issue. If your scope is a budget type or maybe has been dropped or bumped. Purchase another scope made by a reputable manufacturer. Torque the base mounts and rings to whatever spec they should be (often 30# for base and 15-20# for rings). Use a little blue loctite on them also. For the record, I've had great luck out of Burris Fullfield E 1 scopes for the money.

 

[Jcalder]

Hornady SST , triple 7 100 gr

I don't have the best opinion on the sst. I would opt for an xtp or even a Barnes, tho I don't love the Barnes as much. If you can find the Parker ballistic extreme that's what I would use if I needed to shoot further than 100 yards regularly

 

[knightrider]

My muzzleloader wears a leupold 3i 50 mm, people think its over the top for a muzzleloader until i show them 1 hole groups at a 100 and 2 inch groups at two hundred! Cant shoot what you cant see! Vortex has a great warranty because your gonna need it, get a good scope and don't look back!

 

[UPSman]

A lead sled will ruin a scopes guts quickly. Gun isn't allowed to recoil and all of that shock is sent thru the gun to the scope. Some scopes are better than others and a Vortex Diamondback on a lead sled isn't gonna last long. Ditch the sled…

 

[Remi]

I'd swap scopes


One thing I do is plug my bore and fill my bore with acetone and let it set 24hrs. I've had a small ball of plastic come out when I pull the plug and drain it.

 

[deerhunter10]

Hornady SST , triple 7 100 gr

Powder or pellets? I have a cva 45 caliber and I tried pellets when they came out and it wouldn't hold a group for nothing. Went back to loose powder 1inch group again.

 

[Bgoodman30]

A lead sled will ruin a scopes guts quickly. Gun isn't allowed to recoil and all of that shock is sent thru the gun to the scope. Some scopes are better than others and a Vortex Diamondback on a lead sled isn't gonna last long. Ditch the sled…

Dang… Live and learn

 

[Bgoodman30]

Powder or pellets? I have a cva 45 caliber and I trade pellets when they came out and it wouldn't hold a group for nothing. Went back to loose powder 1inch group again.

Pellets

 

[Deer Assassin]

Could be bad powder


I have seen it several times at the range

This ml is all over the place

The. Shoot it through my chrono and the speeds are everywhere
Bad powder


But I suspect mounts and or scope

Burris signature zee rings with inserts never let me down

Steel rings steel bases

 

[Dumbluck]

I know how you feel with muzzleloaders. I killed several brutes with one but they have their issues, I don't care how meticulously you are with them.

I just bow hunt now and enjoy it a lot more.