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I'm hanging it up..

Sage advice here. Don't give up on your MZer yet, new glass and rings and I think you will be well on your way to continued success. For me, a rest is almost always required if shooting beyond 50 yards. I know my limitations shooting freehand. Best of luck going forward.
 
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Sage advice here. Don't give up on yor MZer yet, new glass and rings and I think you will be well on your way to continued success. For me, a rest is almost required if shooting beyond 50 yards. I know my limitations shooting freehand. Best of luck going forward.

I am thinking you're right. I get all tore up on shooter bucks and turkeys for sure.. 2 of these shots came from lock on's with no rest.
 
As others have said, you have a ring, scope or both issue. If your scope is a budget type or maybe has been dropped or bumped. Purchase another scope made by a reputable manufacturer. Torque the base mounts and rings to whatever spec they should be (often 30# for base and 15-20# for rings). Use a little blue loctite on them also. For the record, I've had great luck out of Burris Fullfield E 1 scopes for the money.
 
My muzzleloader wears a leupold 3i 50 mm, people think its over the top for a muzzleloader until i show them 1 hole groups at a 100 and 2 inch groups at two hundred! Cant shoot what you cant see! Vortex has a great warranty because your gonna need it, get a good scope and don't look back!
 
A lead sled will ruin a scopes guts quickly. Gun isn't allowed to recoil and all of that shock is sent thru the gun to the scope. Some scopes are better than others and a Vortex Diamondback on a lead sled isn't gonna last long. Ditch the sled…
 
I'd swap scopes


One thing I do is plug my bore and fill my bore with acetone and let it set 24hrs. I've had a small ball of plastic come out when I pull the plug and drain it.
 

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