J Jennings

Yep... Look at the circumstances surrounding the play and was there a motive for Jennings to intentionally step on the guys head.

Let's not candy coat this and takeoff the orange color glasses.
 

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I didn't think it was intentional because he's not even looking at him when he gets up. I thought he he was pumped for the hit he put on him and when getting up was all emotional and accidentally did it. Yes in the past he acted a thug but seeing it was senior night and he has one collegiate game left in the bowl game I don't think he'd risk missing half of it for that. Maybe I'm wrong but how I saw it after watching the replay 5 or 6 times.
 
He first takes his hand and plants the guys head into the ground where he can immediately step on the guys face. Both action were deliberate and was a continuous act.

He knew exactly where the guys head was because he put it there prior to stepping on him. I think he let his emotions get to him when they were wrestling around.

He basically teed up the guys head before tap dancing on it... :rotf:
 
gator-n-buck":1id479xy said:
He first takes his hand and plants the guys head into the ground where he can immediately step on the guys face. Both action were deliberate and was a continuous act.

He knew exactly where the guys head was because he put it there prior to stepping on him. I think he let his emotions get to him when they were wrestling around.

He basically teed up the guys head before tap dancing on it... :rotf:
Outsider looking in but that's what I also saw. One of the videos they have you can play it frame by frame and it sure looked like his hand was on the guys neck to head area.
 
Since it's so easily seen he did it on purpose for sure according to you guys, and they are said to be videos of him were you can read his lips.

Shouldn't the NCAA be dropping the hammer on him any moment.
 
THEdonkey0515":ijly1fog said:
Shouldn't the NCAA be dropping the hammer on him any moment.

It's still early.

I don't think he intentionally stepped on the guy's face, but I do think he kicked at him as he was walking away.

He clearly lost it with the excessive force on the tackle, and then ripping the guy's helmet off!

When he finally starts walking away, he puts both hands up to the sides of his face. It could be interpreted in many ways, one of which could have been the realization of "what did I just do?"
 
Yep.... Tee the guys head up for the place kick. It was obvious that he would get some kind of suspension. I don't think anyone was buying that he ripped his helmet off, shoved his head into the ground with his hand, and then accidentally didn't know where his head was before stumping on his head with his foot... Really... :rotf:
 
I honestly don't think it was intentional. Ruling is a joke in my opinion. They can't prove he meant to by the video so it's like well let's just suspend him the first half. If it was intentional he should be out of the bowl game.
 
gator-n-buck":1n10luv3 said:
Yep.... Tee the guys head up for the place kick. It was obvious that he would get some kind of suspension. I don't think anyone was buying that he ripped his helmet off, shoved his head into the ground with his hand, and then accidentally didn't know where his head was before stumping on his head with his foot... Really... :rotf:

Chris Doering, Jacob Hester, Peter Burns. Bought it.

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gator-n-buck":un9y9kpl said:
Yep.... Tee the guys head up for the place kick. It was obvious that he would get some kind of suspension. I don't think anyone was buying that he ripped his helmet off, shoved his head into the ground with his hand, and then accidentally didn't know where his head was before stumping on his head with his foot... Really... :rotf:


While I agree it was very intentional, I think "stomping" or "stumping" in your case is a little overboard :tu:

I will argue that it wasn't a stomp lol
 
cbhunter":2l4ww8du said:
gator-n-buck":2l4ww8du said:
Yep.... Tee the guys head up for the place kick. It was obvious that he would get some kind of suspension. I don't think anyone was buying that he ripped his helmet off, shoved his head into the ground with his hand, and then accidentally didn't know where his head was before stumping on his head with his foot... Really... :rotf:


While I agree it was very intentional, I think "stomping" or "stumping" in your case is a little overboard :tu:

I will argue that it wasn't a stomp lol

Okay.... He gingerly placed his cleats on the guys face after fighting with him, ripping his helmet off, face planting his head into the ground with his hand. It was just one big miss understanding.... :D
 
gobblegrunt":1in8bd1n said:
I honestly don't think it was intentional. Ruling is a joke in my opinion. They can't prove he meant to by the video so it's like well let's just suspend him the first half. If it was intentional he should be out of the bowl game.
Agee if they felt you could 100% see he did it intentionally like some on here or if the rumor of a lip reading video was true he wouldn't have played another snap.

This tells me they was not sure after watching it many times So they give him a penalty no worse then getting hit with targeting in the 4th quarter.

If they felt like he ripped a players helmet off then stepped on his bare face on purpose he would be done.
 
So let me see if I understand. Targeting is 1/2 game suspension.
Alleged intentionally trying to take someone's nose off with a cleat is 1/2 game?

I hope they play him anyway. What would be the penalty? Vacating an exhibition game win?

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wayne":sgz3qlav said:
So let me see if I understand. Targeting is 1/2 game suspension.
Alleged intentionally trying to take someone's nose off with a cleat is 1/2 game?

I hope they play him anyway. What would be the penalty? Vacating an exhibition game win?

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Targeting is the worst penalty in college
football. I guess it fits the crime since there are no guidelines for a face stomp in college football after ripping the guys helmet off... :rotf:

The key part is that it's been seen as intentional since there is a penalty. Losing a half game in a lower bowl in your last game when you haven't played in, maybe one is a big deal... :rotf:
 
THEdonkey0515":1w1pf1kj said:
gobblegrunt":1w1pf1kj said:
I honestly don't think it was intentional. Ruling is a joke in my opinion. They can't prove he meant to by the video so it's like well let's just suspend him the first half. If it was intentional he should be out of the bowl game.
Agee if they felt you could 100% see he did it intentionally like some on here or if the rumor of a lip reading video was true he wouldn't have played another snap.

This tells me they was not sure after watching it many times So they give him a penalty no worse then getting hit with targeting in the 4th quarter.

If they felt like he ripped a players helmet off then stepped on his bare face on purpose he would be done.

Bingo.

This is nothing more than to appease the D J Shockleys of the world.

I've seen others suggest that we should go ahead and play him, but I doubt Fulmer would allow that.

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PalsPal":1uqkmlbv said:
THEdonkey0515":1uqkmlbv said:
gobblegrunt":1uqkmlbv said:
I honestly don't think it was intentional. Ruling is a joke in my opinion. They can't prove he meant to by the video so it's like well let's just suspend him the first half. If it was intentional he should be out of the bowl game.
Agee if they felt you could 100% see he did it intentionally like some on here or if the rumor of a lip reading video was true he wouldn't have played another snap.

This tells me they was not sure after watching it many times So they give him a penalty no worse then getting hit with targeting in the 4th quarter.

If they felt like he ripped a players helmet off then stepped on his bare face on purpose he would be done.

Bingo.

This is nothing more than to appease the D J Shockleys of the world.

I've seen others suggest that we should go ahead and play him, but I doubt Fulmer would allow that.

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Fulmer already made the announcement that the university will uphold the suspension. Can't blame them


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