So explain to me how it makes someone less of a turkey hunter if their fanning, it's just another tactic that works and works well especially if one is hung up in a field with hens. I agree it's dangerous on public land and could be on private mainly because of the so called running and gunning idiots that claim that is a good way to kill turkeys but again we all have opinions.
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catman529
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I was almost about to agree with you, but then you talked down running and gunning, why is that?highridge":3hzi5m4c said:
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Aquaholic
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Im not a Turkey Hunter....
But isnt the object of Turkey Hunting is to kill a Turkey? Doesnt matter how you kill them ( I would agree that roost shooting isnt very Sportsman like), they end up equally DEAD....The "Traditional" calling and killing versus Fanning and killing....Both play on the Turkeys Natural Instincts.... I see no difference, just different techniques to the same end result....a DEAD Turkey
But isnt the object of Turkey Hunting is to kill a Turkey? Doesnt matter how you kill them ( I would agree that roost shooting isnt very Sportsman like), they end up equally DEAD....The "Traditional" calling and killing versus Fanning and killing....Both play on the Turkeys Natural Instincts.... I see no difference, just different techniques to the same end result....a DEAD Turkey
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Wise words Kemosabe! You know what they say about people and their opinions
!My 74 yr old dad (who has been hunting turkeys since the 60s), is as "old school" as they come. However, he doesn't hesitate to shoot a jake and loves sitting in a blind with dekes. You want to argue with him about his methods? Go ahead, and he will laugh in your face.
Now, when we are together (which is most of the time), he knows my preferred style, and we chase gobbling turkeys, and he knows I won't "usually" shoot a jake. I still tell him to shoot what makes him happy.
Anyway, I had told him about these fans and to check them out on Youtube. At church two Sundays ago, he came over to me and was BEAMING, looking like a kid on Christmas morning, and said, "WE HAVE GOT TO TRY THAT! ORDER ONE OF THOSE!".
So, guess who now has one
! I hope he gets an opportunity to do it, but it will have to be in the right situation.
I probably shouldn't have said running and gunning idiots because I know alot of excellent turkey hunters that run and gun but I also know some that turn crazy when running and gunning which make fanning a very dangerous situation. Turkey hunting is tough and we all can agree on that but trying different tactics is what makes it fun, I was really skeptical about the fanning thing until I tried it 2 years ago on a lone strutter in a field. I thought that was dumb luck but then last year 2 of my biggest birds took a dirt nap due to fanning and one of the birds literally almost jumped onto the decoy before I could get off my belly and fire, it's very exciting to do. The main thing we all need to know is that it is happening and it works more than you know. My statement was rude due to what was being said in an earlier post so to be honest a run and gunner worries me more than someone fanning but both tactics work well so let's just roll some red heads and be happy that we actually may outsmart a bird or 2.
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Then you wouldn't understand.
highridge":24aqkswi said:
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So the real turkey hunters are making fanning dangerous? That's hilarious. Fanning makes fanning dangerous. And for those that think they are safe on private land read my post in the other thread about my buddy catching poachers on his land during turkey season with a 22 magnum. If that turkey is worth your life, please preoceed. Maybe this is another way to clean up the gene pool. Personally, I have too much to live for.
Setterman
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Below I'm going to say some things that some might find offensive, so if you're easily offended stop reading.
There is nothing skillful about fanning, there is nothing cool about fanning, and there is no respect given from me to a hunter who kills a bird by fanning. Learn to call, and hunt henned up field turkeys, it's not easy by any means but take the time and learn to hunt rather than just kill. Sure the outcome is the same, but one style requires no skill while the other takes patience, an understanding of turkeys, and knowledge of how to call/maneuver/setup/ to kill a very difficult critter to kill. So many hunters these days want only the picture of a dead turkey, they don't want to spend one second actually learning how to hunt turkeys.
Saying runners are idiots, just proves that whoever posted that has very little understanding of turkey hunting outside of a blind. To me nothing is dumber than sitting in a pn enclosed prison cell waiting for a bird to amble by. maybe get out of your comfy chair sometime and actually go into the battle with nothing but a call and a tree, you might change your tune on who the idiots are, because fighting it out with one like that versus in a enclosed pen is an entirely different deal, and not one easily done by an idiot. Any idiot can stick a decoy in a field and any idiot can plop their fat butt in a chair and wait for one to run in. Any idiot can crawl, heck babies crawl.
It might have seemed cool to start throwing out the idiot word, but know I will more than happy to throw it right back in a different context.
On jakes, I think the jake limit should be one, period. That way everyone can kill one if they desire, and after that it's mature birds only. Don't even get me started on shooting bearded hens.
There is nothing skillful about fanning, there is nothing cool about fanning, and there is no respect given from me to a hunter who kills a bird by fanning. Learn to call, and hunt henned up field turkeys, it's not easy by any means but take the time and learn to hunt rather than just kill. Sure the outcome is the same, but one style requires no skill while the other takes patience, an understanding of turkeys, and knowledge of how to call/maneuver/setup/ to kill a very difficult critter to kill. So many hunters these days want only the picture of a dead turkey, they don't want to spend one second actually learning how to hunt turkeys.
Saying runners are idiots, just proves that whoever posted that has very little understanding of turkey hunting outside of a blind. To me nothing is dumber than sitting in a pn enclosed prison cell waiting for a bird to amble by. maybe get out of your comfy chair sometime and actually go into the battle with nothing but a call and a tree, you might change your tune on who the idiots are, because fighting it out with one like that versus in a enclosed pen is an entirely different deal, and not one easily done by an idiot. Any idiot can stick a decoy in a field and any idiot can plop their fat butt in a chair and wait for one to run in. Any idiot can crawl, heck babies crawl.
It might have seemed cool to start throwing out the idiot word, but know I will more than happy to throw it right back in a different context.
On jakes, I think the jake limit should be one, period. That way everyone can kill one if they desire, and after that it's mature birds only. Don't even get me started on shooting bearded hens.
Aquaholic
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You know why I dont Turkey Hunt?, I have been three times and killed three birds.....wasnt much of a challenge , hunt was over by 8 am every time....
Two of the times it was with a cheap Wal-Mart slate call and the last was with a cheap mouth call.....no blind or decoy for any hunts...
Two of the times it was with a cheap Wal-Mart slate call and the last was with a cheap mouth call.....no blind or decoy for any hunts...
I assume you were hunting a prime piece of private land loaded with turkeys?Aquaholic":260dwk1e said:
catman529
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spur why do you need to beat your chest like thatSpurhunter":2aw1a8yi said:
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catman529
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I really don't think setting up and calling a hot lone gobbler is that tough. Sure the hunting is slow sometimes, but in that case I think something like reaping would be tough as well.Setterman":yas8ejrz said:
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Setterman
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Sure calling in a lonely free gobbling turkey is easy, that's not the ones I speak of.
For those of you all that think it's so easy dump the decoys, fans, and blinds and go chase henned up field turkeys with just a call. That takes skill, knowledge, and patience. How much of those does it take to crawl with a fan? Zero.
For those of you all that think it's so easy dump the decoys, fans, and blinds and go chase henned up field turkeys with just a call. That takes skill, knowledge, and patience. How much of those does it take to crawl with a fan? Zero.
easy45
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Don't blame the company, their mission is to make money, blame the idiots that buy enough of it to make primos keep making them, I will say that I use several primos products that I really do like
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Setterman
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catman529":2qx0om3w said:
How is he beating his chest? He's exaclty right
Setterman, obviously your a very skillful turkey hunter and I'm not saying that all runners are idiots, I shouldn't have used that word but some are disrespectful and don't give a rat's arse if someone is working a turkey or not, they will do everything in their power to cut you off or scare everything in the woods. For example, I had my young son at Yuchi this past weekend and we had set up on 2 mature birds early that morning, they gobbled and strutted around 15 or 20 hens, we watched these birds for about 3 1/2 hours, I tried to be a little aggressive with my calling and I also just reminded them that we were still waiting if they felt the need to come up to us, after about the 3 1/2 hour mark one decided he wanted what was on that hill above him and he broke from the hens and was heading our way. From another ridge over we heard the classic runner approach of some, yelp, yelp, yelp...crunch, crunch, crunch. Everytime the bird would gobble you could tell the runner was getting closer. I was hoping the bird would get to us before they ruined everyone's hunt but he didn't, the runner and his son popped up over the ridge between us and the bird and he seen them and that was the end of that. Now, that runner for sure cost my son his very first opportunity at a very good bird and I understand we were on public land and that happens but all he could say was..Well, I guess we will go look for some more birds to try and get in front of...Just sitting and calling doesn't make anyone the better turkey hunter. If i could have gottten the decoys out before they flew down that morning I would have and I have no doubt that my boy would have gotten the opportunity sooner. But if you think that i need to earn your respect because I don't only sit all day and call and be patient I invite you to Greene Co. to hunt with me. Maybe, we can even use a decoy or for good grief sit in a blind together, well, you can sit in the blind and I will do the fanning for you..
catman529
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not zero. But a lot less than calling in a henned up field bird. Trying to call one of those is more like bird watching, or a personal challenge to test your skill and endurance. I spend more time in the woods because I usually prefer calling a cooperative bird, but I have enjoyed hours of field bird hunting that ended up empty handed.Setterman":1hm3owoe said:
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catman529
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what is your definition of a turkey hunter?Setterman":2fqurcl9 said:
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Setterman
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spur why do you need to beat your chest like thatcatman529":1ca3jboj said:
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How is he beating his chest? He's exaclty right[/quote] what is your definition of a turkey hunter?
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Considering the first line of his post is I'm not a turkey hunter. I wouldn't define him as a turkey hunter, therefore his opinion on this sport doesn't matter
catman529
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Setterman":saf8k27y said:
How is he beating his chest? He's exaclty right[/quote] what is your definition of a turkey hunter?
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Considering the first line of his post is I'm not a turkey hunter. I wouldn't define him as a turkey hunter, therefore his opinion on this sport doesn't matter[/quote] well I'm a turkey hunter, does my opinion on the sport count?
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