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I pulled the numbers and they show the decline no matter what the average may be. I wish I could get numbers from 2000-2005

2006-469
2007-388
2008-346
2009-347
2010-305
2011-262
2012-269
2013-263
2014-261
2015(to date)- 183 we won't break 200 this year and if so not by much

Pretty good decline in harvest numbers, and I imagine if you could see on back to 2000 it would be as dramatic as anywhere
 
Your putting in the wrong days or something. I have the complete print offs for each season since 06.

06 -513
07-414
08-364
09-370
10-331
11-296
12-290
13-279
14-296
As of yesterday yall had 189 killed
 
Like I said earlier on another post yall had bad flooding in the last couple springs that and you have 70 jakes getting taken in a spring season so that is 70 less 2 yr old the next yr. It's an epidemic. What yall need is a restart button and a education seminar. Shut your county down 2 yrs and educate the people on not getting desperate to feel a Tage with a jake. Then and only then will you see an increase again.
 
callemquacktn":2pj2geay said:
Like I said earlier on another post yall had bad flooding in the last couple springs that and you have 70 jakes getting taken in a spring season so that is 70 less 2 yr old the next yr. It's an epidemic. What yall need is a restart button and a education seminar. Shut your county down 2 yrs and educate the people on not getting desperate to feel a Tage with a jake. Then and only then will you see an increase again.
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Yea I'll call a county meeting and tell everyone not to hunt for 2 years and not to shoot jakes, that will go over well.

But I completely agree with what you said 100% I wish they would close Lawrence completely for 5 years.

As far as floods I don't remember anything in the last 2 years that would greatly affect anything outside of the shoal creek bottoms.
 
I'll add another detail, I'm willing to bet that the 50% decline or 200+ less birds has mainly came from south of 64 highway
 
Rockhound":2zui2ep0 said:
.....and I imagine if you could see on back to 2000 it would be as dramatic as anywhere
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If you really want the data, contact TWRA. I am pretty sure I recall BigGameGuy (Daryl Ratajczak, TWRA Chief of Wildlife and Forestry) posting a year or so back that he could pull harvest data as far back as the mid 90s.
 
It is real and getting worse.

Next year will be probably will not be any better. No poults as well.

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I am going to say its a combination of things. However I would rate over-hunting #1 and poor reproduction #2. We cant control Mother Nature but we should be able to do something about over-hunting.....Its a snowball effect, I bet the guys in Lawrence didn't stop hunting they just went somewhere else. Now that area is over-hunted and so on and so on....
 
Roost 1":7nx6vq9r said:
I am going to say its a combination of things. However I would rate over-hunting #1 and poor reproduction #2. We cant control Mother Nature but we should be able to do something about over-hunting.....Its a snowball effect, I bet the guys in Lawrence didn't stop hunting they just went somewhere else. Now that area is over-hunted and so on and so on....
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We never over hunted our property but you are correct but I don't over hunt the properties I hunt now. the last count I had on my main property before I killed my 4th bird was 8 Longbeards and at least 8 or 9 jakes
 
Roost 1":39wny2qd said:
I am going to say its a combination of things. However I would rate over-hunting #1, I bet the guys in Lawrence didn't stop hunting they just went somewhere else. Now that area is over-hunted and so on and so on....
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Yep that's what it is, I killed them all of my property in Lawrence when they were gone I moved to Giles and Marshall and now the population is declining there, dang, I guess I'll just have to quit turkey hunting all together.
 
Roost 1":5quvv5gx said:
I am going to say its a combination of things. However I would rate over-hunting #1 and poor reproduction #2. We cant control Mother Nature but we should be able to do something about over-hunting.....Its a snowball effect, I bet the guys in Lawrence didn't stop hunting they just went somewhere else. Now that area is over-hunted and so on and so on....
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I do not Think overhunting is my issue. I have let gobblers walk during last week of the season because I had already got three in Tennessee, plus the birds I kill in Alabama.

With that being said, I knew that there were numerous gobblers and hens left over. So my thinking is, these left overs slowly died of old age, predation, hunting, and maybe an occasional disease. Too add, the poult recruitment, for whatever reason, has not been good enough to sustain the population.

Another of my theories is that for some reason after winter break up they seem to migrate and move and/or stay to the north of me.




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Rockhound":ywz3ry63 said:
callemquacktn":ywz3ry63 said:
Like I said earlier on another post yall had bad flooding in the last couple springs that and you have 70 jakes getting taken in a spring season so that is 70 less 2 yr old the next yr. It's an epidemic. What yall need is a restart button and a education seminar. Shut your county down 2 yrs and educate the people on not getting desperate to feel a Tage with a jake. Then and only then will you see an increase again.
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Yea I'll call a county meeting and tell everyone not to hunt for 2 years and not to shoot jakes, that will go over well.

But I completely agree with what you said 100% I wish they would close Lawrence completely for 5 years.

As far as floods I don't remember anything in the last 2 years that would greatly affect anything outside of the shoal creek bottoms.
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I was talking about something TWRA mandated.
 
callemquacktn":j66oqcpc said:
Rockhound":j66oqcpc said:
callemquacktn":j66oqcpc said:
Like I said earlier on another post yall had bad flooding in the last couple springs that and you have 70 jakes getting taken in a spring season so that is 70 less 2 yr old the next yr. It's an epidemic. What yall need is a restart button and a education seminar. Shut your county down 2 yrs and educate the people on not getting desperate to feel a Tage with a jake. Then and only then will you see an increase again.
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Yea I'll call a county meeting and tell everyone not to hunt for 2 years and not to shoot jakes, that will go over well.

But I completely agree with what you said 100% I wish they would close Lawrence completely for 5 years.

As far as floods I don't remember anything in the last 2 years that would greatly affect anything outside of the shoal creek bottoms.
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I was talking about something TWRA mandated.
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That's what it would take
 
My county seems to be stabilizing around 200 birds a year.... At least I hope it's not still declining. TWRA is asleep at the wheel on this issue, no doubt about it.


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According to some on here they are awake, but continue to drive into on coming traffic and Think that it is ok and everything is peachy swell.

I'm going to be honest, if they would just act like they cared it would change my opinion on them.

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