loud calling?

[BowGuy84]

Hahaha, I hear ya brother. The best way I can explain it is: think about the woman you always wanted to be with.

Ahh...the white tigris. Now we are talking about a prey I know something about.

 

[muddyboots]

I once called one across a 50 acre a field. I could see him and when i really threw it too him and his buddy they would slowly come to me. When i stopped the would wander off so after thirty minutes of nonstop loudest calling you ever heard i killed one of em. My buddy said at the truck "my goodnes how did you blow amouth call that long." LOL The whole time i was thinking i hope nobody is hearing all this.

 

[Roost 1]

And i have seen it the exact opposite, the more you call the more they stop, strut, and gobble. Stop calling and here they come but you only know this if you can see it.

 

[Setterman]

If turkeys didn't gobble I wouldn't hunt them. And spurs mean everything to me, however a 2 year old is just as much fun as a 5 year old bird. I shoot based on beard, a get a surprise with the spurs.

The whole calling debate over loud versus soft really comes down to personal preference IMO. I have seen henned up birds break from their ladies when hammered on, and I have seen the whole pack come to softer more laid back calling.

Bottom line is, if you get a good set-up (close) and take a moment to understand the dynamics of what you are dealing with, most birds should be killable. However, there are those times when it doesn't matter what tactic you employ, the first peep and the hens are headed the other direction with him in tow.

The worst and hardest birds to kill IMO are the 2 year old subordinate birds who have had their brains beat in by dominant birds, but still love to gobble. Only they will respond then go away, you move closer and call, they gobble, only to gobble again 200 yards further away. Those birds IMO are damn near impossible to kill, and some years there seems to be a fair number like that out there.

 

[VolDoug]

The worst and hardest birds to kill IMO are the 2 year old subordinate birds who have had their brains beat in by dominant birds, but still love to gobble. Only they will respond then go away, you move closer and call, they gobble, only to gobble again 200 yards further away. Those birds IMO are damn near impossible to kill, and some years there seems to be a fair number like that out there.

Amen to that. The "running gobbles" as I call it. Very frustrating.

 

[Setterman]

The worst and hardest birds to kill IMO are the 2 year old subordinate birds who have had their brains beat in by dominant birds, but still love to gobble. Only they will respond then go away, you move closer and call, they gobble, only to gobble again 200 yards further away. Those birds IMO are damn near impossible to kill, and some years there seems to be a fair number like that out there.

Amen to that. The "running gobbles" as I call it. Very frustrating.

I have yet to talk to anyone or hear of a consistent strategy for killing these birds, other then ambushing them. I have literally tried everything on them and certainly have killed a handful, but the majority just destroy me, and can waste a ton of time leading you along.

It still is fun, just usually ends with frustration and bewilderment.

 

[4onaside]

The worst and hardest birds to kill IMO are the 2 year old subordinate birds who have had their brains beat in by dominant birds, but still love to gobble. Only they will respond then go away, you move closer and call, they gobble, only to gobble again 200 yards further away. Those birds IMO are damn near impossible to kill, and some years there seems to be a fair number like that out there.

Amen to that. The "running gobbles" as I call it. Very frustrating.

Don't know what causes them to "gobble and run" but its been my observation that its not always the dominant birds that they are scared of. I was messin' with a couple of 2 year old birds, gobbling their heads off, when a flock of juvenile delinquents(6 jakes) rounded the corner. The duo wanted no part of the pack. As soon as they saw the jakes they ran off for parts unknown. I suspect that when jakes have a numbers advantage that they will cause even a boss bird to back down.

 

[Roost 1]

You are correct I see it every year where I hunt. We are fortunate it seems to always have a good number of jakes where I hunt even in down years.. Not uncommon to have 20-30 jakes each year on our place...

 

[Setterman]

The worst and hardest birds to kill IMO are the 2 year old subordinate birds who have had their brains beat in by dominant birds, but still love to gobble. Only they will respond then go away, you move closer and call, they gobble, only to gobble again 200 yards further away. Those birds IMO are damn near impossible to kill, and some years there seems to be a fair number like that out there.

Amen to that. The "running gobbles" as I call it. Very frustrating.

Don't know what causes them to "gobble and run" but its been my observation that its not always the dominant birds that they are scared of. I was messin' with a couple of 2 year old birds, gobbling their heads off, when a flock of juvenile delinquents(6 jakes) rounded the corner. The duo wanted no part of the pack. As soon as they saw the jakes they ran off for parts unknown. I suspect that when jakes have a numbers advantage that they will cause even a boss bird to back down.

I have seen that as well, sometimes those roaming bands of jakes can cause real issues on a piece of property. They can be nasty and love to fight, which makes other birds leary of dealing with them or any other turkeys.

 

[knightrider]

those dang jakes sure do love to gang up on a gobbler!!! everytime i hear the words turkey thug i think of a gang of jakes running around whoopin up on an old gobbler!lol