Mathews X coming mid May

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I hear the new Mathews target bow is coming. It's a new chill X 35" ATA, 7" brace, an your choice of 75to85% let off.
 
That's the word I'm hearing as well�really getting thick with it over on AT. Obviously, I haven't shot it yet, but I'm sure it will be more of the same that they have been putting out...gonna go ahead and put a "not impressed" sticker on it right now, so I can be surprised if it is different than every other bow that they have put out the last 5 years. ;)
 
Interesting...I've really, really been impressed with Hoyt since leaving the Mathews bandwagon. It will be interesting to see what they put out for the target community.
 
UTGrad said:
Interesting...I've really, really been impressed with Hoyt since leaving the Mathews bandwagon. It will be interesting to see what they put out for the target community.
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Agree, I left Bowtech to go to a Hoyt
 
That's odd that they are calling it a target bow. Most target archers prefer the lower letoff of around 65% - 70%. They seem to have gone the total opposite direction. In my opinion, the presumed specs on this bow cater more towards a dual purpose bow. Its a bow that fits the guy that hates the short and small A-A bows...in which he can hunt with and also turn around and set it up for shooting the occasional 3D shoot with. Its the perfect bow specs for someone that was in my shoes just a couple yrs ago...wanted a bow to do both with, but not wanting to jump into having a dedicated hunting bow and then another as a target bow. Pending on the price point and of course, how it shoots...I see this as being a popular offering for them.

By comparison...look at at how much publicity the Elite Energy 35 has got this year. Same specs. Except most people I know that have them, are shooting them at 70% or less letoff. They've moved the draw stops to achieve this.
 
Crow Terminator said:
That's odd that they are calling it a target bow. Most target archers prefer the lower letoff of around 65% - 70%. They seem to have gone the total opposite direction. In my opinion, the presumed specs on this bow cater more towards a dual purpose bow. Its a bow that fits the guy that hates the short and small A-A bows...in which he can hunt with and also turn around and set it up for shooting the occasional 3D shoot with. Its the perfect bow specs for someone that was in my shoes just a couple yrs ago...wanted a bow to do both with, but not wanting to jump into having a dedicated hunting bow and then another as a target bow. Pending on the price point and of course, how it shoots...I see this as being a popular offering for them.

By comparison...look at at how much publicity the Elite Energy 35 has got this year. Same specs. Except most people I know that have them, are shooting them at 70% or less letoff. They've moved the draw stops to achieve this.
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The Hoyt Pro Edge Elite is very similar as well.
 
Been shooting Mathews bows for 11 years, all have been GREAT!! I love my Chill! All have been tack drivers out to 70 yards anyway.
 
W.Seay said:
Been shooting Mathews bows for 11 years, all have been GREAT!! I love my Chill! All have been tack drivers out to 70 yards anyway.
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I am 100% sure it's the Indian that's the tack driver . Lol Don't let the bow take the credit . But I understand what your saying , Matthews feels the best to you . Confidence in your equipment . Almost as if you know where the arrow is gonna go .
 
And all the fanboys will say it's the best bow ever made by Mathews .......until the next model comes out . It's a never ending cycle , but it keeps Mathews in business . :)
 
Radar said:
And all the fanboys will say it's the best bow ever made by Mathews .......until the next model comes out . It's a never ending cycle , but it keeps Mathews in business . :)
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Might want too check archerytalk... A bunch of people who don't like Mathews are talking about how nice this bow is.... Love how people always talk about owners of one brand or another... Guess I just never got into the grade school stuff about talking about other groups of folks.. Takes all kinds to make the world go around though.
 
Rickym said:
Guess I just never got into the grade school stuff about talking about other groups of folks.
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Ummm I think you just did.

Here's the thing man. The older I get, I don't care what other people think about brands and I don't care if they like what I shoot. And I don't care what they shoot. I know what works for me and what I like and I will chose whatever that may be, no matter what brand it may be. We need more people with the capability to think for themselves instead of being like sheep that follow the other sheep and their opinions on things. Who should care if other people like something or don't like something? If you like it...who cares what other people think about it? Shoot it to the best of your ability and be happy.
 
Crow Terminator said:
Rickym said:
Guess I just never got into the grade school stuff about talking about other groups of folks.
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Ummm I think you just did.

Here's the thing man. The older I get, I don't care what other people think about brands and I don't care if they like what I shoot. And I don't care what they shoot. I know what works for me and what I like and I will chose whatever that may be, no matter what brand it may be. We need more people with the capability to think for themselves instead of being like sheep that follow the other sheep and their opinions on things. Who should care if other people like something or don't like something? If you like it...who cares what other people think about it? Shoot it to the best of your ability and be happy.
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Very well said Crow! It would be nice if we had more people that could or would choose to think for themselves because there are way too many sheeple in America today!

Shooting a bow and discerning it's characteristics is highly subjective and extremely hard to quantify! Sure we can measure many things on a bow such as speed, but the feel, balance, pin float, holding on the spot, and grip are open to vastly different interpretation by the individual shooter. So goes the the argument of which is better, blondes, brunettes, redheads? When it comes to women....well obviously my answer would be all of them! If you ever want a good demonstration of subjectivity, just watch an Olympic sport judged by human beings!

As for bows I like lots of them and yes I have opinions about them based on over 40 years of shooting bows!!!

Here are a few JustJerry-isms about some of the products offered on the market:

Mathews is still cluelessly shipping bows with an oversize grip!

Hoyt and PSE have the best grips on a bow on the market!

Mathews is WAY BEHIND the curve by (10 years behind) not bringing out an updated Target/Tournament bow.

Try a Mathews Apex 7 for a while and you'll need an orthopedic surgeon for the vibration damage caused by the bow!

Mathews brought the Triumph to the market with a KNOWN LIMB POCKET DESIGN AND MANUFACTURING FLAW!!!! They chose not to recall the Triumph, but to only repair any sent in for a warranty claim! The pros sure didn't embrace the Triumph!

Mathews, advertised its way to the top and has payed out more contingency money that most other companies...and that folks is the American way. Jack Wallace said it best, "Mathews is an advertising company that builds bows! Hoyt is an engineering company, that builds bows!"

Put a Mathews bow, such as a Z7 in a EZ-Press and watch the riser visually flex a substantial amount! The Hoyt risers don't do this because of the tec bar.

Mathews is EXTREMELY generous in posting the speed of their bows and I'm having a hard time remembering the last one that did hit advertised speed!

Hoyt's speed rating are on the conservative side! As an example one of my Hoyts has an advertised ATA rating of 315 fps, but the real ATA speed rating turns out to be 327-328 fps!

Take a look around at archery as a whole and the winningest bow out there is clearly a Hoyt and that is not subjective! You can check that on YouTube for yourself!

The latest mid year offering from Mathews to me looks like a company that has exhausted its fresh ideas and once again repackaged older ideas into a package advertised as "NEW" and "BETTER!" I submit to you that you cannot polish a turd by any end that you would propose to pick it up!

Shoot whatever you like and I will do the same! Your opinion may differ from mine and I agree that we can disagree! YMMV!

Try being informed, NOT just opinionated!

I could go on and on and on and on and on and on and on.....................but I am off to shoot some foam this morning! So just remember that in my absence from this guild of literary excellence you may attempt to burn me in effigy to no avail whilst wearing my nomex suit! I shall return with quill in hand fully prepared to.............................................................................................................................................................................................!
 
Boy looks some people took offense to my reply...lol

Fact of the matter is. Mathews makes a quality bow and that's what keeps them in business....
EVERY brand has loyal fans or "fanboys" as some of you say... I could care less what any of you shoot... I just enjoy shooting, but I can't stand the attitudes in archery.. People are PREJUDGE by the bow the pull out of their case, and that's crap... Happens over and over.. I get so many looks at shoots, and I always make a effort to say hi to those people and try to spark a conversation with them so they know some of the stupid things they might hear about Mathews owners isn't always true.. Just like I don't think every other bow brand owner acts like that. Give the person a chance before acting like a jerk... There's plenty of good and bad shooters with every bow brand out there..
Am I a loyal Mathews shooter??? yes I am. Because of the quality of the product, and also the WONDERFUL owner and people that work there. I have been lucky to make many friends with the people behind the name, and you won't find better people anywhere..

Some replies to the above comments

Mathews wood grip are now slim... haven't made the big grip in years.. They also have the focus grip which is my favorite..

Been awhile for a new target offering..probably not much longer.. But hey if it works it works...

Some of the early Triumphs had a little slack in the limbs pockets.. They were fixed when customers brought them in and updated..

Apex 7 has vibration.. Yep.. Some Target shooters call it feedback... Don't see a lot of target shooters with string stops..lol

As far as Jack's statements..Glad he is shooting a bow he likes, but I would expect more with such a superior bow than almost identical results from last year with the Mathews....

Don't put to much faith in what the pros are shooting... I know some do...Just look at Elite now since they got Levi and Darrin... Also know a lot of people who jumped on the bandwagon jumped right back off also...

Honestly I am surprised Levi and Darrin also haven't won more than they have this year..... Great shooters..

Lastly I love how every one always is quick to jump on Mathews saying they release the same stuff over and over..What has ANY bow company came out with that is mind blowing lately??? Please don't say the Carbon bow, because that was done long ago before Hoyt...Plus they hardly weigh any less than the other offerings now..

I will take small refinements to a great bow, or change for the sake of change any day..

In closing I would like to say again..I don't care what you shoot.. I would be honored to fling some arrows with any of you, but try not to label a group of shooters as "fanboys" until you get a chance to meet that person and understand what they like about the bow they shoot or don't.. It goes both ways guys...
 

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