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Question about game wardens

K-dub said:
I wonder if seeing a group dressed in hunting clothes and carrying shotguns gives them enough suspicion to investigate further. Checking for license, correct rounds in the guns, shot etc.
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Under the old interpitation yes, but not now.They have to have written permission to enter your land
 
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Snake said:
It's not against the law that he wore no orange as he wasn't hunting but kinda dangerous IMO .
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This time of year I do not engage in any activities on my own land without wearing orange. I also wear orange when going on long walks along the roadsides behind my farm - much of it is through wooded areas. Besides that, on two occasions I've seen roadside "hunters" set up in their pickups.
 
K-dub said:
I wonder if seeing a group dressed in hunting clothes and carrying shotguns gives them enough suspicion to investigate further. Checking for license, correct rounds in the guns, shot etc.
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I don't believe that's enough suspicion to walk across the property to check. If the adjoining landowner called in for possible baiting and gave them permission to survey on his side and then seen a baited duck hole then it's my understanding they can go onto the property. Same as if someone was deer hunting and the warden seen an active feeder or bait on the ground.
If the neighbor calls in and the warden surveys from an adjoining land and doesn't see a violation then they have no right to cross over for a "possible" violation.

I could be wrong on that tho.
 
rem270 said:
I don't believe that's enough suspicion to walk across the property to check. If the adjoining landowner called in for possible baiting and gave them permission to survey on his side and then seen a baited duck hole then it's my understanding they can go onto the property. Same as if someone was deer hunting and the warden seen an active feeder or bait on the ground.
If the neighbor calls in and the warden surveys from an adjoining land and doesn't see a violation then they have no right to cross over for a "possible" violation.

I could be wrong on that tho.
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Yeah this was my understanding. Couldn't have been the baiting scenario because he didn't even bother to check the pond. We did some digging and found that this warden actually has gained permission to hunt the next property over. Now I'm almost 100% sure the warden was the one sitting on the next property while we were setting up our blinds the evening prior. I don't think anyone called in on us for anything. The landowner (hunting buddy) decided not to do anything this go around but if it happens again we are going to tell him to kick rocks. I wish I had said something the first go around but like I said I just wasn't 100% on the ruling and didn't want to come across as an ass. Next time I'll be an ass. At that point it would be hunter harassment in my opinion
 
Rainbowtrout1 said:
Yeah this was my understanding. Couldn't have been the baiting scenario because he didn't even bother to check the pond. We did some digging and found that this warden actually has gained permission to hunt the next property over. Now I'm almost 100% sure the warden was the one sitting on the next property while we were setting up our blinds the evening prior. I don't think anyone called in on us for anything. The landowner (hunting buddy) decided not to do anything this go around but if it happens again we are going to tell him to kick rocks. I wish I had said something the first go around but like I said I just wasn't 100% on the ruling and didn't want to come across as an ass. Next time I'll be an ass. At that point it would be hunter harassment in my opinion
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I understand, but it was illegal and harassment the first go around, no way if i was the landowner his supervisor wouldnt be seeing me face to face
 
Rainbowtrout1 said:
I'd like to know why TWRA is using half of their resources for sumner county on a Saturday morning trying to catch a couple guys doing something wrong on a farm pond instead of patrolling old hickory lake but hey, wouldn't expect anything less
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Likely because it was next to where he was hunting. I'd call it a conflict of interest- totally wrong IMO.
 
Rainbowtrout1 said:
Yeah this was my understanding. Couldn't have been the baiting scenario because he didn't even bother to check the pond. We did some digging and found that this warden actually has gained permission to hunt the next property over. Now I'm almost 100% sure the warden was the one sitting on the next property while we were setting up our blinds the evening prior. I don't think anyone called in on us for anything. The landowner (hunting buddy) decided not to do anything this go around but if it happens again we are going to tell him to kick rocks. I wish I had said something the first go around but like I said I just wasn't 100% on the ruling and didn't want to come across as an ass. Next time I'll be an ass. At that point it would be hunter harassment in my opinion
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Hopefully with a warden hunting the adjacent property it can turn into a benefit for everyone. Never know when you might need each other down the road.

But if I was in the situation and one more attempt at being a d*ck by the warden then I can be one ten fold. I'm sure you guys can too. Good luck.
 
rem270 said:
Hopefully with a warden hunting the adjacent property it can turn into a benefit for everyone. Never know when you might need each other down the road.

But if I was in the situation and one more attempt at being a d*ck by the warden then I can be one ten fold. I'm sure you guys can too. Good luck.
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I thought that would be a blessing to us in Giles but turned out quite the contrary. They come on to our property twice messing up our hunts . They were looking for people hunting on their leased property and assumed it was us . I told him I knew his property and would rather hunt ours 2 to 1 than hunt yours .....kinda pissed him off . I said since you've ruined our hunt I'll take you to where I was hunting and where my grandson was hunting if you don't believe me and show you . He said I know it wasn't you two because of the clothing you two are wearing . I also said couldn't you wait until we got through hunting ? There is only one way in here and one way out !! He didn't respond....
 
Omega said:
My thinking is this; If a case with what I believe the facts to be ever end up in court, we may just have a reversal of the ruling due to Open-Fields Doctrine. In the original case, if they had sought a warrant to place the cameras we would not have had the ruling in the first place. I think most of us honest hunters have no problem with them checking for game violations on private property, I know I don't, but when they are trying to actually build a case, warrants need to be applied for and issued.
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When its a meth lab instead of a corn pile, they may very well reconsider. A lot of folks only thinking about this in the context of hunting/fishing, but open fields has been relied upon by all law enforcement agencies.
 
Snake said:
I thought that would be a blessing to us in Giles but turned out quite the contrary. They come on to our property twice messing up our hunts . They were looking for people hunting on their leased property and assumed it was us . I told him I knew his property and would rather hunt ours 2 to 1 than hunt yours .....kinda pissed him off . I said since you've ruined our hunt I'll take you to where I was hunting and where my grandson was hunting if you don't believe me and show you . He said I know it wasn't you two because of the clothing you two are wearing . I also said couldn't you wait until we got through hunting ? There is only one way in here and one way out !! He didn't respond....
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That doesn't surprise me one bit, unfortunately. A lot of times the "rules for thee, but not for me" come into place.
 
Rainbowtrout1 said:
Yeah this was my understanding. Couldn't have been the baiting scenario because he didn't even bother to check the pond. We did some digging and found that this warden actually has gained permission to hunt the next property over. Now I'm almost 100% sure the warden was the one sitting on the next property while we were setting up our blinds the evening prior. I don't think anyone called in on us for anything. The landowner (hunting buddy) decided not to do anything this go around but if it happens again we are going to tell him to kick rocks. I wish I had said something the first go around but like I said I just wasn't 100% on the ruling and didn't want to come across as an ass. Next time I'll be an ass. At that point it would be hunter harassment in my opinion
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I doubt you will hear another word. He probably didn't like the "shooting" while he was deer hunting.

I hate that it's gonna slide but totally get it at the same time
 

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