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Had my butt handed to me in south MS. I've burned 7 vacation days so far, hunted 15 or 16 days here, covered portions of 4 counties, hiked 75 miles, and had 3 birds total gobble, but on private I couldn't access. No gobbles since Mar 25th.

I've called in 3 birds. A hen clucking quietly, and 2 jakes that came in silent yesterday.

Haven't even heard a single shot all season down here. Heck, only found 2 sets of gobbler tracks on public all season!

But I've enjoyed every minute!
 
Had my butt handed to me in south MS. I've burned 7 vacation days so far, hunted 15 or 16 days here, covered portions of 4 counties, hiked 75 miles, and had 3 birds total gobble, but on private I couldn't access. No gobbles since Mar 25th.

I've called in 3 birds. A hen clucking quietly, and 2 jakes that came in silent yesterday.

Haven't even heard a single shot all season down here. Heck, only found 2 sets of gobbler tracks on public all season!

But I've enjoyed every minute!
Don't take this the wrong way, but Ive got to ask: If the population is really that low where you are, WHY ARE YOU HUNTING THEM? Its ultimately up to US as hunters, to decide what our resources can support. Im thankful to TWRA, NWTF, Jack Murray, and countless others for bringing the wild turkey back. Its up to us to help ensure they survive. If my areas were that low on birds, theres no way I would consider killing one and I wouldn't allow anybody else to hunt on the properties I control. Personally I would quit, hunt other areas, other states, etc... and hope my area isn't too far gone to rebound.
 
Had my butt handed to me in south MS. I've burned 7 vacation days so far, hunted 15 or 16 days here, covered portions of 4 counties, hiked 75 miles, and had 3 birds total gobble, but on private I couldn't access. No gobbles since Mar 25th.

I've called in 3 birds. A hen clucking quietly, and 2 jakes that came in silent yesterday.

Haven't even heard a single shot all season down here. Heck, only found 2 sets of gobbler tracks on public all season!

But I've enjoyed every minute!

That's a great attitude. I like the exercise aspect of public ground run and gun. Honestly I think I had just as good success when I used to hunt public ground. I decided that I was not going to hunt public this year because of the increased pressure but that proved to be a bad choice! My issue is time and hens. For whatever reason the last two years it seems the hens never leave the Toms. They are with them all day everyday.
 
Since getting the bird in Indiana on Wednesday, I've hunted 3 different public lands in KY. I have found birds on them all but even during the week, people have been parked everywhere. I normally kill a high percentage of gobblers that I work, not here so far. Every one I've worked has shut up as soon as I make the first call. I've got within 60-75 yards of 4 different birds and can't get them to come check me out, just get ignored. I am not used to getting it handed to me like this 😂 I tried moving to a rough mountainous area to escape pressure but it's worse here!
 
Since getting the bird in Indiana on Wednesday, I've hunted 3 different public lands in KY. I have found birds on them all but even during the week, people have been parked everywhere. I normally kill a high percentage of gobblers that I work, not here so far. Every one I've worked has shut up as soon as I make the first call. I've got within 60-75 yards of 4 different birds and can't get them to come check me out, just get ignored. I am not used to getting it handed to me like this 😂 I tried moving to a rough mountainous area to escape pressure but it's worse here!
I cut my teeth hunting public birds, at Catoosa to be more specific. If you can consistently kill birds there, you can kill them ANYWHERE. What I learned was that just because he shuts up at your first call doesn't mean hes not coming. Id be willing to bet youre walking off leaving birds that you could kill with a little more patience. An HOUR became my standard time limit to stay put and stay alert after calling to a bird that I KNOW heard me. Youd be surprised at how many times an hour later youd hear the "phtttttt-uuummmmmm" of the one you thought was gone shows up looking for you.
 
I cut my teeth hunting public birds, at Catoosa to be more specific. If you can consistently kill birds there, you can kill them ANYWHERE. What I learned was that just because he shuts up at your first call doesn't mean hes not coming. Id be willing to bet youre walking off leaving birds that you could kill with a little more patience. An HOUR became my standard time limit to stay put and stay alert after calling to a bird that I KNOW heard me. Youd be surprised at how many times an hour later youd hear the "phtttttt-uuummmmmm" of the one you thought was gone shows up looking for you.
I've waited hours and hours, literally close to 3 hours on several of these. I've killed many public land birds all over, including many of the hard to kill public lands. These things just know the game it seems. Back at it one more morning tomorrow though. I thought I had one in the bag yesterday evening, it was actually gobbling great, then I saw a bear headed up the creek bottom toward it, total silence after that. I gave it til dark.
 
Don't take this the wrong way, but Ive got to ask: If the population is really that low where you are, WHY ARE YOU HUNTING THEM? Its ultimately up to US as hunters, to decide what our resources can support. Im thankful to TWRA, NWTF, Jack Murray, and countless others for bringing the wild turkey back. Its up to us to help ensure they survive. If my areas were that low on birds, theres no way I would consider killing one and I wouldn't allow anybody else to hunt on the properties I control. Personally I would quit, hunt other areas, other states, etc... and hope my area isn't too far gone to rebound.
Because I LIVE to turkey hunt! Down here, turkeys are in pockets.. a few here, a few there. Find the right pocket that year and the hunting can be decent. I've just had a run of bad luck not stumbling into the right pocket. Or I've been around them and they haven't made a peep (birds here in general are much less vocal, and usually don't respond unless you are within 100y from them)

I know of 8 or 9 birds killed down here so far by acquaintances. Of course they were all on private under a corn feeder. Even the WMA I'm on now has had 2 birds checked in so far this season.

And these birds are also secretive... you won't find them strutting in open fields, so they are much less visible. Heck, I've only seen 1 hen (on private) while riding the roads to and fro from hunting spots.

I'm not complaining at all... actually having a blast! Been a great season elsewhere, already done battle with and won 12 times (no, I did not shoot them all, most were for friends and family) on my trips out of state. Freezer is full, just hoping for that next gobble like a Crack head is hoping for their next hit :)
 
It's definitely been a tougher than normal season for me. Turkeys here are still in flocks so they don't need to gobble. The hens are just really giving me fits. Could that be what's going on with some of your birds maybe?
 
Just returned from public land hunt in Missouri's Ozark Region. Toughest turkey hunting I've experienced in that area since 2016. By far the fewest turkey sightings (hens, jakes, LBs) I've ever seen/heard/ in the immediate area, basically no turkey sign, and the least limb and mid morning free gobbling ever. One positive was the fewest OOS hunters I've ever seen, but with hindsight being 20/20, I think they are the smart ones. We had a decent size group of guys in and around the area that managed to literally "scratch out" a few, but the effort per bird was the highest ever, and the hours afield without hope was the highest ever too. I did come across hog/pig hair in the woods and a few baited hog sites with traps. We never saw hogs, hog sign, hog hair or traps prior to 2016. Also worth mentioning is 2020 (COVID) in the area had the most OOS hunters I've ever seen (number of hunters and number of States) , and the Jake kill last year was a good bit higher than years past. Few pics from this past week as the cardio, outdoor experience and challenge was great, but the turkey hunting in the vast mountainous hardwoods was extremely challenging.

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You rubbed them out, didn't you?;)
Hell yes I did!

Interestingly, I met an older local nice fellow today who was slow crawling the dirt roads in his truck looking for a track after last night's rain. He's had his worst season ever as well. Heckuva nice guy, we hit it off, and he handed me several of his mouth calls he makes himself. I switched to using his 3 Reed split V the rest of the day. Only managed a couple more hours and 3 more sets.. got up to 86 degrees with insane humidity after the rain. And I deserve a beer.
 

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Just returned from public land hunt in Missouri's Ozark Region. Toughest turkey hunting I've experienced in that area since 2016. By far the fewest turkey sightings (hens, jakes, LBs) I've ever seen/heard/ in the immediate area, basically no turkey sign, and the least limb and mid morning free gobbling ever. One positive was the fewest OOS hunters I've ever seen, but with hindsight being 20/20, I think they are the smart ones. We had a decent size group of guys in and around the area that managed to literally "scratch out" a few, but the effort per bird was the highest ever, and the hours afield without hope was the highest ever too. I did come across hog/pig hair in the woods and a few baited hog sites with traps. We never saw hogs, hog sign, hog hair or traps prior to 2016. Also worth mentioning is 2020 (COVID) in the area had the most OOS hunters I've ever seen (number of hunters and number of States) , and the Jake kill last year was a good bit higher than years past. Few pics from this past week as the cardio, outdoor experience and challenge was great, but the turkey hunting in the vast mountainous hardwoods was extremely challenging.

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Snow in the first pic???

Hate that you guys didn't get into more birds. Hard to see a place soo good in the past go downhill.
 
Hell yes I did!

Interestingly, I met an older local nice fellow today who was slow crawling the dirt roads in his truck looking for a track after last night's rain. He's had his worst season ever as well. Heckuva nice guy, we hit it off, and he handed me several of his mouth calls he makes himself. I switched to using his 3 Reed split V the rest of the day. Only managed a couple more hours and 3 more sets.. got up to 86 degrees with insane humidity after the rain. And I deserve a beer.
😂👍
 
Snow in the first pic???

Hate that you guys didn't get into more birds. Hard to see a place soo good in the past go downhill.
Yes, the strong cold front that pushed through Tuesday afternoon brought 2-3 hours of wet blowing snow as the temps plummeted, with some of the elevated snow lasting overnight. That pic was taken Wednesday morning.
 
Id be willing to bet youre walking off leaving birds that you could kill with a little more patience. An HOUR became my standard time limit to stay put and stay alert after calling to a bird that I KNOW heard me. Youd be surprised at how many times an hour later youd hear the "phtttttt-uuummmmmm" of the one you thought was gone shows up looking for you.
Have to agree with these thoughts, at least regarding most turkey hunters, in that they tend to give up too quickly on a bird. Once I'm positive he responded to my calling, rarely am I going to look for a different bird.
 

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