Turkey Season Dates Matter?

JCDEERMAN said:
That's weird. I was talking to a guy I know in Hickman last week that also found a dead one on his property with no signs of anything wrong. He also watched 2 buzzards fall from the sky and lay dead 😳. Riddle me that
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Got me worried for sure. Especially since there are less gobblers around this year than last year but that was expected since there was no jakes last season. This year seeing some Jakes but God forbid some disease hitting them... Again...
 
It's amazing at the overwhelming amount of proof supporting the fact that season dates don't affect turkey numbers that people still side on the dominant gobbler theory side. Look at Mississippi for not delaying and the improvement across multiple properties despite heavy hunting early. Look at all the studies pointing and showing no significant linkage to season timing in regards to populations. It's obvious enough that it's likely the same people that don't believe there is money laundering and fraud going on with the government that share the same beliefs 😂
 
Bgoodman30 said:
Got me worried for sure. Especially since there are less gobblers around this year than last year but that was expected since there was no jakes last season. This year seeing some Jakes but God forbid some disease hitting them... Again...
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I saw about a dozen on our property Saturday, but couldn't tell what they were. Usually we have quite a few right now. I'm going to get my cell cams out in a few weeks, so I'll find out then.
 
deerhunter10 said:
Our birds at our giles County farm seem to disappear over a 2 year period. In maury, marshall and Hickman County gradually. Don't have our giles County farm anymore so unsure what it's like now. But it was unbelievable at the time what it was to when we stopped turkey hunting it. Almost apocalyptic.
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do you have chicken houses in giles co???? id bet you do
 
Gobble4me757 said:
It's amazing at the overwhelming amount of proof supporting the fact that season dates don't affect turkey numbers that people still side on the dominant gobbler theory side. Look at Mississippi for not delaying and the improvement across multiple properties despite heavy hunting early. Look at all the studies pointing and showing no significant linkage to season timing in regards to populations. It's obvious enough that it's likely the same people that don't believe there is money laundering and fraud going on with the government that share the same beliefs 😂
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Yeah, it sounds like you live on the left side of the fence if you are believing the government "studies" concerning the issue. Just remember, those were the same dumbazzes that told us for years that the population was fine and not declining.
 
scn said:
Yeah, it sounds like you live on the left side of the fence if you are believing the government "studies" concerning the issue. Just remember, those were the same dumbazzes that told us for years that the population was fine and not declining.
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dont or didnt you work for the government??
 
scn said:
Yeah, it sounds like you live on the left side of the fence if you are believing the government "studies" concerning the issue. Just remember, those were the same dumbazzes that told us for years that the population was fine and not declining.
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If it mattered that much we never would have gotten to the population we had, you mean to tell me for thirty years season dates were just fine but all of a sudden in a two-five year period the early opener killed the turkey population?
 
deerfever said:
We are now seeing nonresidents from the South of us instead of the North. They kill out then come here instead of driving to Kentucky. Ran into some myself last season, so the non resident argument for opening later seems to be a wash..( if you do not want non residents opening weekend make rules/quotas like other states have)
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Guilty as charged. Love ya'll's delayed opener!!!
 
knightrider said:
And i see that as a problem, to many people finding more success on an already strained resource because folks who couldnt kill birds before now have no problem killing them in may when they will come running to a raped duck call.
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I personally don't know anyone who is hunting that far into May. Most people I know have limited out by the time May gets here and if they have not then chances are good that they won't. So what I'm seeing is the season has basically been shortened by 2 weeks (despite the fact you can hunt 2 weeks longer than you could before season was moved back) because nobody in my neck of the woods is taking advantage of it. I don't know a single person who is going to go fight the heat and ticks. What this DOES do is allow turkeys and extra 2 weeks to do turkey things before they get interrupted. Turkeys are going to get killed regardless of season dates. Atleast the delayed start allows them an extra 2 weeks to do turkey things.
 
Coker said:
I believe it is a natural cycle. I have seen this many times in the 30+ years I have been turkey hunting. You have cycles of multiple good years with booming populations and multiple years of sub par populations. It definitely helps that TWRA is looking into how to better the population, habitat, and overall turkey success. But, sometimes you just have to let nature run its course.
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You have a better understanding of turkey population dynamics than some state biologists.
 
knightrider said:
If it mattered that much we never would have gotten to the population we had, you mean to tell me for thirty years season dates were just fine but all of a sudden in a two-five year period the early opener killed the turkey population?
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Absolutely not. The season dates and bag limits were out of whack for a long time and contributed to our population going down the toilet. That is what happens when you have agency personnel and commissioners that put $$$ before the resource. Changes should have happened a long time ago.
 

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