Poachers gonna poach, it's what they do. It's sad that the agency has such little faith in us sportsman.
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"You may now have some freedom, but not too much"
This is a very silly approval IMHO. Why regulate in such detail what an individual can do on their private land. Shotgun, center fire, flaming arrow for what it's worth. It's a coyote, not a whitetail. Spoken from someone that generally supports TWRA and sensible regulation, this is a miss.
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PillsburyDoughboy
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I did not read that in the article. Are you seeing that somewhere else? Or are you just gathering from the fact because buckshot is illegal for deer hunting and other big game hunting that TWRA is going to follow the same guidelines for this hunt? I just read No single Projectiles. Which would indicate No Slugs .
PillsburyDoughboy
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It is if your a farm owner wanting to use it under the Farm Owner Exemption. Because as a farm owner you are going to be extremely aware of your property, the surrounding properties , the dwellings on the surrounding properties and the safe zones where it would be safe to fire a centerfire at night.
I suspect the reason they are saying shotguns only is because they are allowing anyone with a valid hunting license and permission from the farm owner to step onto said piece of property and have at it if you will to go coyote hunting. I can only imagine how little time many people would put into scouting a property they are fixing to hunt for coyotes. Its hard enough to get someone to do a adequate job of scouting for deer during daylight hours in most cases much less learn the lay of the land for dwellings that exist beyond the reach of a centerfire rifle.
Omega
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It's nonsense, they already allow night hunting of hogs with a permit, and as far as I know there is no center fire restriction. If private landowners hunt their land, they know where to shoot and if there are any danger areas, if they allow others to hunt, they should be able to tell them those limits. Besides, many hunters will take advantage of lights and night vision making it that much safer. Just seems they didn't put much thought into it, or are deliberately making it difficult. There are a bunch of states where it's legal with no such restrictions with very few issues, if any.
Yes, yes you are
j/k , its just the opposite of what your used to with the before sunrise and after sunset rules
PickettSFHunter
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Correct, there's actually no restrictions whatsoever on firearms that can be used on hog permits. If you want to use and can afford, a belt fed M240B in full auto, you can. If you can afford and want to use a M2 50 cal machine gun, you can. Shotguns for safety apparently only apply if it's a predator
TWRA really needs a certified safety professional to walk them through some of their rationale.Correct, there's actually no restrictions whatsoever on firearms that can be used on hog permits. If you want to use and can afford, a belt fed M240B in full auto, you can. If you can afford and want to use a M2 50 cal machine gun, you can. Shotguns for safety apparently only apply if it's a predator
TWRA discussing the safety aspect
Well it's the government so.....
Goodish news. I cut my teeth night hunting in Tx with centerfire rifles on NVGs and Thermals. I'm looking at my 590 and just thinking...that's stupid, how / why am I going to suppress that. Basic rules of firearm safety is knowing what beyond your target. If you are hunting on private (your own) land it shouldn't be an issue.
Theoretically. You take a .410 slug gun; handload slugs with an additional single small piece of lead between the projectile and the powder, you are now not shooting a single projectile but a .41 cal round ef' you and then the small piece of horse you rode in on. Easy to suppress and safe for thermal optic mount. You would be legal right?
ETA:
why not a 12 or 20 slug
ETA:
why not a 12 or 20 slug
TWRA is disappointing
We need to be able to
348Winchester
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Such is the nature of any government agency.
backyardtndeer
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If they ever get this right and allow centerfire, or even rimfire for that matter, I will invest in a thermal optic.
Get a can and don't tell anyone. Buy the thermal.
You can hunt all private land from the road as well. They can't stop you unless they see you shoot. Just use the thermal to see if there is a game warden around beforehand. That's how its done here.
fairchaser
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I agree that the new law seems to be a baby step and won't really allow effective predator control. But, baby steps is how wildlife management is usually done in order to eliminate unforeseen consequences.
I'm totally shocked at so many suggestions to skirt or break the law here! Does the end justify the means? We play by the rules or we are no better than the poachers.
I'm totally shocked at so many suggestions to skirt or break the law here! Does the end justify the means? We play by the rules or we are no better than the poachers.
PickettSFHunter
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It's like this… hog steps out in my pasture at night, it's safe and legal to shoot it with a rifle. Coyote steps out in my pasture at night in the same spot, not legal to shoot and TWRA says unsafe
the reality is that country people are just going to take care of it rationally.You shouldn't be shocked. It is reality. They are correct in their belief that they can get away with it because it's dark out and are using thermal. The game warden was either here or at my neighbor's house again last night. It's a constant year around problem for our homes and it WILL destroy hunting opportunities. It has here. The trash have taken the sport of hunting and the people that are making the decisions are 100% responsible. Number one source of crime in my neighborhood is by far hunters. That's why i'm a fisherman and a trapper. Lol
