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Here is a pic of a buck where he fell. See all the blood around him? NO. There is none. The only blood is where i turned him over. You can see where the arrow worked out and into his knee. He was hit perfectly on the opposite side. If I was to pull up pics of deer I have shot over the years, you would see blood everywhere around the area of the fall from thrashing or falling.

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quackaholic said:
Yes it is poor performance if there is no blood trail to follow. You won't always be able to hear the deer fall. It just so happened he fell into a ravine and there was quite a ruckus. In Archery blood trails are a very important issue. I ain't calling a dog every time I shoot a deer, are you?
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quackaholic said:
Here is a pic of a buck where he fell. See all the blood around him? NO. There is none. The only blood is where i turned him over. You can see where the arrow worked out and into his knee. He was hit perfectly on the opposite side. If I was to pull up pics of deer I have shot over the years, you would see blood everywhere around the area of the fall from thrashing or falling.
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Anatomy and shot placement explain everything with both animals, not broad heads or crossbows. Both broad heads and your crossbow did exactly as they were designed. There were no equipment failures.

The deer you lost was because you didn't penetrate his chest cavity. He left a trail of blood because you severely cut a whole bunch of exterior muscle and the blood had nowhere to go but on the ground.

The deer you killed didn't leave a blood trail because you hit high rear lung and all the blood poured/sucked into his chest cavity, which would need to fill up before pouring out but by then the deer was already dead. The only muscle hit was rib, which doesn't bleed excessively enough to leave an easily noticeable trail. Had you hit lower lung he would have left a blood trail. Had you hit heart then he'd have left a blood trail. But with high rear lung I don't care if you could drive a truck through the hole, it's not going to leave a heavy blood trail. But it will effectively kill a deer in seconds. It's a fantastic shot if you ask me.
 
A dog could still find him if you think he's dead. I agree that blood doesn't look good but if confident that you hit mid body or shoulder, it wouldn't hurt to try a dog.
 
Ski said:
The deer you killed didn't leave a blood trail because you hit high rear lung and all the blood poured/sucked into his chest cavity, which would need to fill up before pouring out but by then the deer was already dead. The only muscle hit was rib, which doesn't bleed excessively enough to leave an easily noticeable trail. Had you hit lower lung he would have left a blood trail. Had you hit heart then he'd have left a blood trail. But with high rear lung I don't care if you could drive a truck through the hole, it's not going to leave a heavy blood trail. But it will effectively kill a deer in seconds. It's a fantastic shot if you ask me.
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I didn't hit the deer in the pic as high as I would have liked. But since you were there and saw all but what I have told you actually happened. I will concede. I don't like arguing especially when only one knows the facts and I am not saying what you are saying is incorrect. Everything you are saying, I agree with. Except it does not apply to what happened.
 
TN Larry said:
A dog could still find him if you think he's dead. I agree that blood doesn't look good but if confident that you hit mid body or shoulder, it wouldn't hurt to try a dog.
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I can't be sure of anything at this point. Only that I tracked the deer farther than I care to admit. Then grid searched the last patch of woods he went in. The owner of the property there sawed wood just a little later and may have bumped him from there. With leaves falling last night covering all sign, I was forced to admit a non lethal hit even defying what I think I saw.
 
quackaholic said:
Could be. But we didn't see him today. Yesterday after 3 ½ hours is when I jumped him from a bed 15 yards from where I last saw him when I snapped that Pic. I'm not saying it's the bows fault, but I have zero confidence in it after shooting several deer with lack luster results.
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We hunters have a tendency to blame our equipment and sometimes it's the case but if the Xbow is shooting accurately then could be operator error. Most times that's the case with me but it does lower your confidence when you lose one .
 
quackaholic said:
No. It's

First, I used a 125 Sevr titanium 1.5. I have used the mega meat and had poor performance on a buck at Oak Ridge. I did recover him, but only because I heard him fall. I have a CP400 and use Victory X Bolts. Shoots a flat 375fps. And I haven't shot at any game past 50. As a matter of fact this deer was ranged at 47yds. Perfectly broadside. The only real issue was with his stance when I shot which may have been the whole problem he was stretched out. While he was running he was pouring. When he slowed the hole may have covered by shoulder and skin. I hope it was just too far forward. That he will survive and I get another opportunity.
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You get that Sevr in the goods it is a wrap. Hopefully you get another crack.
 
Deer are tough animals with an amazing ability to recover. I had a friend shoot one during bow season many years ago that should have been a kill shot. He never found the deer and then he ended up killing the deer during gun season. Apparently, the arrow took out one lung and the deer survived. I butchered the deer. There was a scar on the inside of the rib cage where the arrow penetrated, The first deer I ever shot with a muzzleloader ran off and I never found him. I sat in my treestand for an hour before coming down. It looked like something out of a horror movie. Blood sprayed all over the woods and I found where he laid down. The was a big pool of blood. He got up and started walking and eventually he stopped bleeding. He had to have lost more than half the blood in his body.
 

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