What did you do today in the reloading room?

[Remi]

I did some load development today with H4350, 90 gr Sierra Tipped GameKings, and 95 gr SST's for my 243 Winchester. Basically I would load 3, shoot them on my back porch range, and come back inside because it's cold . This rifle just isn't stabilizing the long sleek Sierra Tipped GameKings I don't believe, best I could get with several different recipes was 1.7" at 100 yards. The 95 SST was a different story, 0.46" at 100 I don't think I want to actually hunt that bullet though so I may keep testing. I'm guessing it will not have very good weight retention with a max load and a bullet designed for shock anyway. That's just the two 6mm bullets I had on hand. View attachment 262624

Sst looks grest


The Grand Slam may be worth trying: https://www.midsouthshooterssupply....eter-100-grain-soft-point-grand-slam-50-count


I use the 80 ttsx, 80 gmx, and 95 NBT in my slower twist 243 win. My model 7 won't really stabilize the 105's. They don't key hole but 1.5-2" is all it will do.

 

[PickettSFHunter]

Sst looks grest


The Grand Slam may be worth trying: https://www.midsouthshooterssupply....eter-100-grain-soft-point-grand-slam-50-count


I use the 80 ttsx, 80 gmx, and 95 NBT in my slower twist 243 win. My model 7 won't really stabilize the 105's. They don't key hole but 1.5-2" is all it will do.

I do like the grand slam bullets. I'm typically a shoulder shooter for deer. That's just programmed in me, I don't like them running off over the mountain or whatever it may be. I was considering going light and fast like the 80 ttsx or Hornady cx. Just need to get something ordered. I would love to get the 85 makers but they have been out of stock all the time it seems like.

 

[Remi]

I do like the grand slam bullets. I'm typically a shoulder shooter for deer. That's just programmed in me, I don't like them running off over the mountain or whatever it may be. I was considering going light and fast like the 80 ttsx or Hornady cx. Just need to get something ordered. I would love to get the 85 makers but they have been out of stock all the time it seems like.

I'm a shoulder breaker as well. I feel that tracking is greatly overrated.

45grs h4350 and the 80ttsx - 3186fps

45grs h4831 and the 80gmx - 3030fps

41.5grs H4350 and the 95 NBT

40grs H4350 and the 87 vmax hits the exact same POI as the gmx load above. I practice with it and have killed everything but deer with it.


Those are the loads I use.

 

[nso123]

I do like the grand slam bullets. I'm typically a shoulder shooter for deer. That's just programmed in me, I don't like them running off over the mountain or whatever it may be. I was considering going light and fast like the 80 ttsx or Hornady cx. Just need to get something ordered. I would love to get the 85 makers but they have been out of stock all the time it seems like.

Take a look at the 70gr Hammer Hunter. 3500 fps and a shoulder smasher. They will stabilize in a 10 twist. They are around half inch in my son's Savage Axis.

 

[hunter0925]

Take a look at the 70gr Hammer Hunter. 3500 fps and a shoulder smasher. They will stabilize in a 10 twist. They are around half inch in my son's Savage Axis.

I am a big fan of the 75hht. 3600 out of my 6creed and extremely accurate.

 

[rifle02]

I got started on a new thing! I resized 100 pieces of Nosler 300 Blackout brass. New brass, new dies. And then realized that when buying up all this new stuff I neglected to buy a Trim gauge. So I ordered that. Once I get them trimmed and primed I have several different bullets to try. I have some 125 grain FMJ, 150 grain SST and 190 grain sub X. As for powder what I have on hand is h110, w296 and I bought a pound of cfe-blk. I have a 10.5 inch barrel pistol as a new toy to play with!

 

[fullstream]

I got started on a new thing! I resized 100 pieces of Nosler 300 Blackout brass. New brass, new dies. And then realized that when buying up all this new stuff I neglected to buy a Trim gauge. So I ordered that. Once I get them trimmed and primed I have several different bullets to try. I have some 125 grain FMJ, 150 grain SST and 190 grain sub X. As for powder what I have on hand is h110, w296 and I bought a pound of cfe-blk. I have a 10.5 inch barrel pistol as a new toy to play with!

The Barnes 110 Tac-Tx is an awesome bullet. I've shot hogs and a couple does with it. Received my best accuracy with H110.

 

[270 Joe]

Working on .223 L.C. brass, My son has a AR. I had to buy a small base die for it. I tried my loads that I use in my bolt gun. Some worked but most didn't. The small base die should be fine, as it squeezes the shoulder down more than the standard die. I have AR primers, and regular CCIs. Will CCI 400s be ok in the gas gun?

 

[Jcalder]

Working on .223 L.C. brass, My son has a AR. I had to buy a small base die for it. I tried my loads that I use in my bolt gun. Some worked but most didn't. The small base die should be fine, as it squeezes the shoulder down more than the standard die. I have AR primers, and regular CCIs. Will CCI 400s be ok in the gas gun?

Some claim the cups are thin and could have an issue with slam fires. I've not had an issue with them in my AR.

 

[270 Joe]

OK I'll try the CCIs, as I have a lot more of them. I'll be using Accurate 2460. That's what I use in my .223 bolt gun and my M1 Garand

 

[Omega]

Working on .223 L.C. brass, My son has a AR. I had to buy a small base die for it. I tried my loads that I use in my bolt gun. Some worked but most didn't. The small base die should be fine, as it squeezes the shoulder down more than the standard die. I have AR primers, and regular CCIs. Will CCI 400s be ok in the gas gun?

Small base dies squeeze the bottom more not the shoulder. Cases fired from normal civilian weapons, including ARs should not need small base dies, brass fired from military weapons such as the SAW and other larger chambered weapons are what creates the problem. The chambers are a bit larger (still SAAMI) due to them having to feed faster, less jams. Full length dies is all I have, and only have had issues with some cases, but I just size a couple times, size, rotate 1/4 of a turn and size again and it works fine, I have even resized loaded ammo by taking the pin out of the die, but that is rare now that I use a case gauge. I have used regular primers for my civilian ARs since I began reloading for them with no issues, but I do not do mag dumps, just controlled fire.

 

[270 Joe]

Small base dies squeeze the bottom more not the shoulder. Cases fired from normal civilian weapons, including ARs should not need small base dies, brass fired from military weapons such as the SAW and other larger chambered weapons are what creates the problem. The chambers are a bit larger (still SAAMI) due to them having to feed faster, less jams. Full length dies is all I have, and only have had issues with some cases, but I just size a couple times, size, rotate 1/4 of a turn and size again and it works fine, I have even resized loaded ammo by taking the pin out of the die, but that is rare now that I use a case gauge. I have used regular primers for my civilian ARs since I began reloading for them with no issues, but I do not do mag dumps, just controlled fire.

Thanks for the info. I just measured a case from the small base die, it is .350 on the shoulder, and .373 on the base. My loads for my bolt gun measures .354 shoulder, and .374 base. which is what my Lyman book shows for specs. So I think my Small base cases will work just fine. actually the book shows .376 on the base.

 

[Omega]

Thanks for the info. I just measured a case from the small base die, it is .350 on the shoulder, and .373 on the base. My loads for my bolt gun measures .354 shoulder, and .374 base. which is what my Lyman book shows for specs. So I think my Small base cases will work just fine. actually the book shows .376 on the base.

Oh yea, small base will work, just not needed in most cases.

 

[Remi]

Thanks for the info. I just measured a case from the small base die, it is .350 on the shoulder, and .373 on the base. My loads for my bolt gun measures .354 shoulder, and .374 base. which is what my Lyman book shows for specs. So I think my Small base cases will work just fine. actually the book shows .376 on the base.

Have you measured your headspace for each? It could be the ar has a longer chamber and you're not getting enough shoulder movement.


I have 2 sets of .30-06 dies because my .002" shoulder bump for my Ruger won't load in my Remington because the chamber is larger. Cases sized for the Remington give .012" negative headspace in the Ruger.

 

[270 Joe]

Have you measured your headspace for each? It could be the ar has a longer chamber and you're not getting enough shoulder movement.


I have 2 sets of .30-06 dies because my .002" shoulder bump for my Ruger won't load in my Remington because the chamber is larger. Cases sized for the Remington give .012" negative headspace in the Ruger.

No , I was using rounds for my bolt gun, and some would chamber in the AR and most would not, My C.O.L. for them is 2.500, in my bolt gun loads. I am prepping the brass now for the AR. I don't have it , as it's my sons gun and he's 100 miles away.

 

[Remi]

No , I was using rounds for my bolt gun, and some would chamber in the AR and most would not, My C.O.L. for them is 2.222, in my bolt gun loads. I am prepping the brass now for the AR. I don't have it , as it's my sons gun and he's 100 miles away.

I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't a few thousandths different in headspace.


.002" shoulder bump for my bolt gun is .004" bump for my AR. I got lucky on those chambers.

 

[270 Joe]

No , I was using rounds for my bolt gun, and some would chamber in the AR and most would not, My C.O.L. for them is 2.500, in my bolt gun loads. I am prepping the brass now for the AR. I don't have it , as it's my sons gun and he's 100 miles away.

 

[270 Joe]

Thanks everyone who replied back, I'll be able to figure it out, and get that "Gas Gun" shooting ! Yep the ARs are fun to shoot, but I like my Savage M 25 Walking Varmeter .223 bolt gun.