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#2 let me get too close to him on the roost

the one CANADA goose i killed and cooked was very good. i just skinned it and put it in a roasting bag in the oven for about 3 hrs.

as for wingshooting turkeys, i have no experience with it and therefore no opinion. i just find it odd that some consider it unethical yet if you shoot most any other bird other than on the wing, well then, that is considered unethical by most.
 
Poser said:
The problem is, in my opinion, a turkey is far heavier, contains far more muscle tissue, and is larger than any other upland game bird:

Ring necked pheasant
Bobwhite quail
Blue Grouse
Ruffed Grouse
Sharptailed Grouse
Sage Grouse
Hungarian Partridge
Chukar
California Quail
Snipe
Woodcock
Scaled Quail
Prairie Chicken
Mountain Quail
Doves
Pigeons
Ptarmigan

I'm not saying that it can't be killed shot on the wing, because it certainly can, but I have seen a turkey in flight shot 4 times, knocked out of the air and hit the ground running. The body shot necessary to effectively incapacitate a turkey seems like it would do too much damage to the meat to be ethical and a effective head shot in flight with a typical turkey setup/pattern is a difficult shot. Again, not saying that it can't be done and that it is not done, just saying that I personally do not approve of it.

i can respect that opinion. thanks.
 
To wing shoot a turkey, you still have to focus on the neck and head. It isn't that hard to hit with a shotgun. If you can hit a dove, then you should be albe to pop a turkeys noggin in flight. They aren't that fast once airborn. But I also know how easy it is just to go for the whole bird in the heat of the moment. I agree with Poser on their toughness. They are super tough birds. I have made them fold like a dishrag, then hit the ground running. That's a tough pill to swallow. I will still take a shot in flight if I have a good shot at the neck and head though. It just depends on how the shot looks at that moment.
 
Agree with or disagree with it was a legal bird.

So congrats on your bird.
 
WMAn said:
CatMan,

You have supported your decision to shoot the bird off the limb on the basis that it's legal and it's "fair chase" because of the difficulty of getting within range of a roosted tom.

Yes, it is legal. However, legal and illegal with regards to game and fish regulations represents only a minimum standard of conduct enforced by a regulatory agency to prevent sportsmen from doing harm to the game/fish species or harm to each other (public safety). In this case, there are not enough turkey hunters shooting birds off the limb to do harm, and it's not a public safety risk. Also, a good game/fish reg must be easily enforceable so even if a game agency wanted to make it illegal to shoot a bird off the limb. How could they enforce it? The officer would have to be within sight of you and the bird to know that you did it. In this case, turkey hunters are allowed to decide whether it's ok to them or not.

To your fair chase argument, it is not difficult to stalk within gun range of roosted birds especially after green up. Why do turkeys roost in trees? To escape predators. One they are in a tree, flushing from the roost is their absolute, last escape option. You almost have to walk directly underneath him. With leaves on the trees, it becomes a situation where you can't see him until he sees you and by that time you are in range.

"Fair chase" is something we each define, but if your argument here is that getting within gun range of a roosted bird is very difficult, I think you come up short.

Finally, I read your posts with enthusiasm and based on what I can tell you are a fairly new hunter. Most of us when we got started went through a stage where blood was what mattered. We lived for the kill, and we gladly walked the line between legal/illegal or ethical/unethical to get that next one. The rush was yo much for us to restrain.

Over the last few years, I have had the pleasure of introducing a lot of new turkey hunters to the sport we love. Getting them to look beyond the kill is one of the biggest challenges I face. Yes, we are there to harvest a bird and bring meat home. What I teach them though is we each get to decide how we do that. What is legal is our first standard, but individually we should strive for a higher standard than simply what is legal. For me, shooting a bird off the limb does not meet that standard.

well stated..
 

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