Ames Plantation Hunting Club Shrinking

[swampbadger]

I heard Bill and Melinda Gates bought it.

 

[BPhunter]

I heard Bill and Melinda Gates bought it.

Now don't that figure that they'd buy a plantation?

 

[swampbadger]

I heard Bill and Melinda Gates bought it.

I truly hope your article is correct and My comment is just a joke it was intended to be.

 

[BPhunter]

All the more reason we need to support increasing acquisitions of "public" lands, to NOT be developed. I prefer to see this done more by private citizens than government agencies.

At least at the moment, it appears the Ames property is not going to be "developed",
but is just going to have some changes in ownership & how managed?

But speaking of government, how many hunters realize that the much of the demand for more housing is being driven by our federal government's not only allowing, but actually encouraging, tens of millions of illegal aliens to just come into America?

People have to stay somewhere, even illegal aliens.
Much of their housing is being paid for via your tax dollars, in more ways than most can even imagine.
Many of those cookie cutter houses, being built by private enterprise, will in turn house many illegal aliens, and much at your expense.

The population explosion in the United States is now almost totally due to illegal aliens & "anchor" babies being born at a very high rate (compared to U.S. citizens' birthrates).

And the Denoncrat Communists want to give them a free home and free money with our tax dollars!

 

[swampbadger]

I'm all for it, especially if it becomes another piece of public hunting land.

 

[BPhunter]

Could you change that

Full of Yankees and Californians and illegals. ready to ruin every bit of our once beautiful countryside. Went to a spot we've gone to for years on Cherokee lake last weekend. Full of Mexicans wall to wall couldn't even park. Throwing cast nets and boiling all the fish in a big pot. I'm about ready to move out of here. Once the out of staters get into our local politics. You can write this place off. Not to offend if you've been in TN long time then you are not who I'm talking about.

Could you change that to liberal Yankees, because I was born and raised in PA, so I suppose that makes me a Yankee, but a damned Conservative one. I'm on your side and always have been.

 

[BigAl]

They do mention hunting. No guarantees!

That would be good depending on how they manage it.

 

[timberjack86]

Could you change that

Could you change that to liberal Yankees, because I was born and raised in PA, so I suppose that makes me a Yankee, but a damned Conservative one. I'm on your side and always have been.

Nothing wrong with Yankees, as long as they are conservative!!

 

[TheLBLman]

And the Denoncrat Communists want to give them a free home and free money with our tax dollars!

At least with this particular forest purchase, that will not be the case.

However, I suspect the Californians will be buying up 2-acre lots around much the perimeter.
Each will then have a wildlife feeder in their back yards, and feel entitled to kill lots of deer off their large 2-acre estate.

 

[MickThompson]

I saw no mention of Hunting in this article:

Land Deal Could Create New State Forest, Protect Memphis Water Supply

The land is in the recharge zone for the Memphis Sand Aquifer.

www.memphisflyer.com

Every other state forest allows it

 

[BPhunter]

At least with this particular forest purchase, that will not be the case.

However, I suspect the Californians will be buying up 2-acre lots around much the perimeter.
Each will then have a wildlife feeder in their back yards, and feel entitled to kill lots of deer off their large 2-acre estate.

Sounds like you understand the life of Kalifornistans. You are correct.

 

[@fulldraw]

I saw no mention of Hunting in this article:

Land Deal Could Create New State Forest, Protect Memphis Water Supply

The land is in the recharge zone for the Memphis Sand Aquifer.

www.memphisflyer.com

When it becomes a state forest basically there will be two options. Either it'll be open per state regs like most state forests or hunting will be conducted jointly with TWRA such as with Natchez Trace SF. However, hunting will be allowed.

 

[PickettSFHunter]

I see it as a good thing if it actually becomes a State Forest. I would just beware that TN does pull shenanigans like making land a State Natural Area instead and forbidding hunting. There are some perfectly safe, very rural state owned tracts locked up from hunting in this manner.

 

[timberjack86]

I see it as a good thing if it actually becomes a State Forest. I would just beware that TN does pull shenanigans like making land a State Natural Area instead and forbidding hunting. There are some perfectly safe, very rural state owned tracts locked up from hunting in this manner.

Savage gulf comes to mind.

 

[PickettSFHunter]

Savage gulf comes to mind.

yes sir. I can think of 40,000ish acres of perfectly safe rural tracts that could be open for hunting by the State of TN but aren't, and that's just off the top of my head. Meanwhile I'm going to a Georgia state park hunt again this year where hunters are allowed to shoot deer on the golf course and driving range with rifles Supposedly conservative TN chooses to be like a bunch of Democrat liberals on these things so just beware when it comes to Ames.

 

[timberjack86]

yes sir. I can think of 40,000ish perfectly safe rural tracts that could be open for hunting by the State of TN but aren't, and that's just off the top of my head. Meanwhile I'm going to a Georgia state park hunt again this year where hunters are allowed to shoot deer on the golf course and driving range with rifles Suppsoedly conservative TN chooses to be like a bunch of Democrat liberals on these things so just beware when it comes to Ames.

Congrats on the hunt, I didn't draw a state park hunt in Georgia this year. Got a point for next year!

 

[BPhunter]

Driving down I-70 heading west between Vail and Beaver Creek, beautiful golf course on left side of highway, huge herd of elk grazing there. Couldn't have been happier to see they had good feed to graze on!!

 

[TheLBLman]

yes sir. I can think of 40,000ish acres of perfectly safe rural tracts that could be open for hunting by the State of TN but aren't, and that's just off the top of my head.

Heck, there's a lot more than 40,000 acres!

Although the decision isn't the State of TN's,
imagine if a limited amount of quota hunting were allowed inside the Smoky Mountain National Park.
Done as a lottery draw, regulated hunting could provide much of the funding needing by our national parks.

As example . . . . . . .

The Smokey Mountain National Park is approximately 522,000 acres (or 816 square miles).

Imagine having a single 1-week long (Monday thru the next Sunday) annual hunt for 500 hunters, each drawn to "hunt" their preference of non-threatened small game, or deer, or bear. A whole week to hunt whatever each drawn hunter prefers.

Some would focus on grouse, others would just focus on a wilderness experience where they could take a few squirrels incidentally. Most might focus on deer & bear, but all would have a unique wilderness experience.

Although not the most ideal timing for most hunters, such an idea might become a "done deal" if the proposed hunt week were the 2nd week of January. The appeal is that of a true wilderness hunt (or about as close as anyone could conceive in Tennessee).

Of course, from most hunters' perspectives, 2nd week of December better, 2nd week of November even better. Ideally, hunt dates when the area's tourism isn't at its peak (like to see the fall colors, or a few days before & after Christmas, etc.).

The lottery draw parameters could be allowing over 1,000 acres per hunter, some of whom wouldn't show up to hunt, many of whom wouldn't hunt all 7 days.

Would you pay $50 for a lottery ticket for this?

I would speculate, just among TN residents, there would be over 20,000 buying a lottery ticket.
That would raise $1,000,000 in just ticket sales. Imagine another 20,000 buying a lottery ticket from outside TN. Then imagine how much such an idea might increase TWRA's non-resident revenue.

Opening up regulated hunting via lottery draw on most U.S. national parks could in fact greatly help us in reducing our national debt?

Ah, but just like anti-gun people deter the best solutions to crime, anti-hunters would go ballistic over the very idea of opening up national parks to limited hunting? Or would the hunters & non-hunters just see this as a great idea whose time has come?

 

[Antler Daddy]

Heck, there's a lot more than 40,000 acres!

Although the decision isn't the State of TN's,
imagine if a limited amount of quota hunting were allowed inside the Smoky Mountain National Park.
Done as a lottery draw, regulated hunting could provide much of the funding needing by our national parks.

As example . . . . . . .

The Smokey Mountain National Park is approximately 522,000 acres (or 816 square miles).

Imagine having a single 1-week long (Monday thru the next Sunday) annual hunt for 500 hunters, each drawn to "hunt" their preference of non-threatened small game, or deer, or bear. A whole week to hunt whatever each drawn hunter prefers.

Some would focus on grouse, others would just focus on a wilderness experience where they could take a few squirrels incidentally. Most might focus on deer & bear, but all would have a unique wilderness experience.

Although not the most ideal timing for most hunters, such an idea might become a "done deal" if the proposed hunt week were the 2nd week of January. The appeal is that of a true wilderness hunt (or about as close as anyone could conceive in Tennessee).

The lottery draw parameters would be allowing over 1,000 acres per hunter, some of whom wouldn't show up to hunt, many of whom wouldn't hunt all 7 days.

Would you pay $50 for a lottery ticket for this?

I would speculate, just among TN residents, there would be over 20,000 buying a lottery ticket.
That would raise $1,000,000 in just ticket sales. Imagine another 20,000 buying a lottery ticket from outside TN. Then imagine how much such an idea might increase TWRA's non-resident revenue.

Opening up regulated hunting via lottery draw on most U.S. national parks could in fact greatly help us in reducing our national debt?

Ah, but just like anti-gun people deter the best solutions to crime, anti-hunters would go ballistic over the very idea of opening up national parks to limited hunting? Or would the hunters & non-hunters just see this as a great idea whose time has come?

I don't think anyone is advocating for hunting in the National Park. It is all the other state public land such as state parks, etc that are over populated and need reductions.

Lots of states have hunting on state parks. They generally close to everyone for a couple of days during the week instead of a weekend and encourage the hunters to have at it.

 

[TheLBLman]

I don't think anyone is advocating for hunting in the National Park.

Correct. No one is advocating for that, but me.
Spread the idea.

There was a time when nearly all National Wildlife Refuges didn't allow ANY hunting.
Most do now. That idea was started with one man pushing it.

Anti-hunters are less than 10% of the voting public.
Non-hunters may be over 70%, but they are mostly neutral.
Make the case for regulated hunting such that only an anti-hunter could have much issue with it.