Fanning a gobbler(short clip)

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Setterman":1hfak4we said:
Never said it was unethical or unsportsmanlike, and don't feel that way. It's just not turkey hunting from my perspective. It's turkey killing, with little challenge compared to the way I and a lot of others hunt.

I'm not a sheep that goes along with everything that is legal. Never have been, and that won't change. I don't believe in abortion, which is legal. I don't believe queers should be allowed to marry, which is legal in many places. I don't believe in legalizing dope, which is legal in places.

I could go on and on, but the fact is that just because something is legal, doesn't mean I'm going to change my personal beliefs to March along with the popular opinion.

I don't blame people for taking advantage of regulations or rules that are in place, but that doesn't mean I won't voice my opposition to those practices.

In this country we are blessed with the freedom of speech and some of y'all must lean to the extreme liberal side of politics based on how sensitive you are to an opinion not like yours and attempts to silence those who don't fall in line.

Killing turkeys with fans, decoys, blinds, rifles, ambushing, etc is not the same as killing turkeys with only a shotgun and a call. At least from my point of view, the way I see it there's zero comparison to the way I and the folks I interact with hunt and the new generations tactics.

Again, it's not unethical, not fair chase, or unsportsmanlike to kill turkeys using these tools, I just do not view a dead turkey killed by these means the same as one killed using the traditional approach

Very well said.

However, I would question the ethics of a newer hunter attempting a shot like this. I'm sure Zach has practiced it and knew he'd hit the bird good enough to drop it immediately. But, for a new hunter to drop a fan, mount a gun, and still make an ethical shot on a running bird would be darn near impossible and lead to more injured birds running off to die at a later date.

Although hunting turkeys in this fashion has zero interest from me, it does look exciting. It will draw some of the younger generation into it. The problem with this is that these younger hunters have not had the experiences to realize how dangerous turkey hunting can be if the proper precautions aren't taken. I can see some of these younger hunters pushing the boundaries of safety and fanning on public land because they don't have permission for their own pieces of private land.

I'm not so much against this sort of hunt as I'm against glorifying it.
 
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TreyB":1aawc5q8 said:
Setterman":1aawc5q8 said:
Never said it was unethical or unsportsmanlike, and don't feel that way. It's just not turkey hunting from my perspective. It's turkey killing, with little challenge compared to the way I and a lot of others hunt.

I'm not a sheep that goes along with everything that is legal. Never have been, and that won't change. I don't believe in abortion, which is legal. I don't believe queers should be allowed to marry, which is legal in many places. I don't believe in legalizing dope, which is legal in places.

I could go on and on, but the fact is that just because something is legal, doesn't mean I'm going to change my personal beliefs to March along with the popular opinion.

I don't blame people for taking advantage of regulations or rules that are in place, but that doesn't mean I won't voice my opposition to those practices.

In this country we are blessed with the freedom of speech and some of y'all must lean to the extreme liberal side of politics based on how sensitive you are to an opinion not like yours and attempts to silence those who don't fall in line.

Killing turkeys with fans, decoys, blinds, rifles, ambushing, etc is not the same as killing turkeys with only a shotgun and a call. At least from my point of view, the way I see it there's zero comparison to the way I and the folks I interact with hunt and the new generations tactics.

Again, it's not unethical, not fair chase, or unsportsmanlike to kill turkeys using these tools, I just do not view a dead turkey killed by these means the same as one killed using the traditional approach


If we could all be like you this world would be perfect!
 

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:lol: There you go again with those kiddie pics.
 
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Reaping has been around much longer than when MOJO highlighted it or Setterman disapproves of it.....since before the white man landed

Congrats Zach nice vid
 
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Setterman":u75sxe2b said:
More Native American infatuation......

You are an extremely negative individual. I am sorry that you disapprove of how Native Americans hunted animals to feed their families. I am even more sorry that you would stoop to a level that degrades them to fit your own sad opinion. You really need to get over yourself or learn to keep your mouth closed at certain times. It isn't cool, at all.
 
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Setterman":3sk36i6o said:
In this country we are blessed with the freedom of speech and some of y'all must lean to the extreme liberal side of politics based on how sensitive you are to an opinion not like yours and attempts to silence those who don't fall in line.

Take a look in the mirror! :rotf:

I knew we wouldn't have to wait long for your next performance!
 
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Well, that comes as no surprise. I previously reached the conclusion that Cowman71 and Setterman are two peas in a pod...equally pompous and derogatory.
 
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Setterman":2imez0na said:
More Native American infatuation......
better than an infatuation with crying baby pictures...one day your sacred way of hunting will be dead the way you see the Indians way of hunting.


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Cowman71":2s9du848 said:
I won't watch adolescents with no turkey hunting skills sneak up on pet turkeys in a wide open field, holding a turkey fan in front of there face. But, when you and your band of idiots finally catch a round to the face, be sure and post that, because that I will be looking forward to watching ;)
why do you have such a dislike for younger hunters?


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Congrats on your turkey and the ability to get it done in a different way!! Last I checked , setterman, cowman 71,or anyone else for that matter didn't buy your liscense or shells, so I would not worry about any negative comments they or anyone else make on the way you want to hunt or kill turkeys. They are not the rule enforcers or decision makers on what to do or not to do in turkey hunting, keep hunting the way you enjoy hunting and laugh it off! I hunt how I want to hunt and never think twice is it "old school" "new school" or is everyone on TNDeer going to approve of it! Just have fun and hunt!
 
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catman529":3av5ys1h said:
Setterman":3av5ys1h said:
More Native American infatuation......
better than an infatuation with crying baby pictures...one day your sacred way of hunting will be dead the way you see the Indians way of hunting.


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Doubt it, as soon as a few folks get killed fanning it'll be the end of the idiocy. Or try fanning where I hunt which is thousands of acres of unbroken timber, where you have to actually learn how to move, set up, call, and be in good enough shape to climb 1500 ft in elevation like I did today. That's turkey hunting, at least to me and everyone I interact with.
 
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Setterman":28eqd9ja said:
catman529":28eqd9ja said:
Setterman":28eqd9ja said:
More Native American infatuation......
better than an infatuation with crying baby pictures...one day your sacred way of hunting will be dead the way you see the Indians way of hunting.


Sent from the talk of tap
Doubt it, as soon as a few folks get killed fanning it'll be the end of the idiocy. Or try fanning where I hunt which is thousands of acres of unbroken timber, where you have to actually learn how to move, set up, call, and be in good enough shape to climb 1500 ft in elevation like I did today. That's turkey hunting, at least to me and everyone I interact with.

It's great that you have mastered the art of hunting wild turkeys in the mature timber!! Why bash others because they do things different than you do. I have never heard anyone bash you for not going after some of those hung up field turkeys! There are lost of ways to hunt turkeys and to eaca his own, why waste time bashing or downgrading. And btw I kill 90% of my gobblers in the timber , and find it much easier than working a bird in from strutting in the middle of a wide open field!!
 
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Setteman is a MAN!!!!
 
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TreyB":4ohec0da said:
Setteman is a MAN!!!!
Yep, apparently the only one that knows how your suppose to kill turkey!!

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Setterman":3ejlcyl0 said:
catman529":3ejlcyl0 said:
Setterman":3ejlcyl0 said:
More Native American infatuation......
better than an infatuation with crying baby pictures...one day your sacred way of hunting will be dead the way you see the Indians way of hunting.


Sent from the talk of tap
Doubt it, as soon as a few folks get killed fanning it'll be the end of the idiocy. Or try fanning where I hunt which is thousands of acres of unbroken timber, where you have to actually learn how to move, set up, call, and be in good enough shape to climb 1500 ft in elevation like I did today. That's turkey hunting, at least to me and everyone I interact with.
I'm glad you have a thousand acres to hunt but my guess is mist people don't have that luxury so they do what it takes to get it done LEGALLY!

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JAY B":3kbgyozp said:
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Doubt it, as soon as a few folks get killed fanning it'll be the end of the idiocy. Or try fanning where I hunt which is thousands of acres of unbroken timber, where you have to actually learn how to move, set up, call, and be in good enough shape to climb 1500 ft in elevation like I did today. That's turkey hunting, at least to me and everyone I interact with.

It's great that you have mastered the art of hunting wild turkeys in the mature timber!! Why bash others because they do things different than you do. I have never heard anyone bash you for not going after some of those hung up field turkeys! There are lost of ways to hunt turkeys and to eaca his own, why waste time bashing or downgrading. And btw I kill 90% of my gobblers in the timber , and find it much easier than working a bird in from strutting in the middle of a wide open field!!
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I grew up hunting south Alabama ag fields which could be 500 acres, decoys were illegal so we had to learn how to hunt field turkeys using calls, set ups etc..

That has caused me to develop a lack of understanding and sensitivity to all these new tactics. I'm not nearly as harsh on the decoy crowd, but I have issues with the fanning as I find it incredibly dangerous and a sign of a hunter who has no idea how to hunt turkeys or the desire to ever learn. They simply care about killing the fastest and easiest way possible.
 
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WG Taxidermist":2w6oy667 said:
uote="Setterman"]More Native American infatuation......
better than an infatuation with crying baby pictures...one day your sacred way of hunting will be dead the way you see the Indians way of hunting.


Sent from the talk of tap[/quote]
Doubt it, as soon as a few folks get killed fanning it'll be the end of the idiocy. Or try fanning where I hunt which is thousands of acres of unbroken timber, where you have to actually learn how to move, set up, call, and be in good enough shape to climb 1500 ft in elevation like I did today. That's turkey hunting, at least to me and everyone I interact with.[/quote]
I'm glad you have a thousand acres to hunt but my guess is mist people don't have that luxury so they do what it takes to get it done LEGALLY!

Sent from somewhere in the sticks using Tapatalk[/quote]

Sure they do, I dont hunt anything but public ground. It's open to any and all. Next....
 
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Zach already stated he kills them other ways than fanning... Nobody cares how u think hunting should be. Do it ur way and stop commenting on everything u don't agree with just to start fights. Bet u and ur buddies are fun to be around kinda like a stick in the mud!!
 
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