For those that have been falling into .........

I'm being a smartaleck, I don't really want a hawk season.

I'm all for cutting the fall season to one or two birds and banning any hen (regardless of beard) killing in the spring. I try to kill two turkeys a year from the property I turkey hunt, I've never tried to kill more than that. It's a few hundred acres that, at times, is covered up in gobblers, but I don't want to overshoot the property.
 
benellivol":3i9xlxpk said:
Open up a hawk season, that will surely help poults survive


I like it, save some quail, rabbit, and squirrel also.



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I saw 8 strutting this morning on my way in. the farms i see these birds have little hunting pressure, but there is at least deer hunting going on and presumably there may be turkey hunting going on. So far this flock has done pretty well, and i have watched them for the last 8 years.

that being said, a thought crossed my mind this morning. we can go on and on about what is killing the turkeys and talk about what the limits should be, but one thing everyone seems to agree about is the hatches have been bad the last few years.

My thought was if TWRA can stock elk and deer, why can't it hatch poults in a controlled area, free of predators and then release them IN OUR STATE :).
 
Roost 1":1n2ixb7l said:
Because they would not ever survive...
good point... They do need to relocate birds within the state instead of selling them to TX. I understand Twra is mostly self funded and needs the money, but we also need the turkeys or fewer people will buy licenses (res and nonres) resulting in less income for Twra in the long run.


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Another reason KY's numbers are down. They doubled the non-res license from $30 to $60 last year. I hunted KY until they did that and usually killed at least one and most of the time two birds. Wonder how many others did not hunt there because of that?
 
catman529":11sz52y8 said:
Roost 1":11sz52y8 said:
Because they would not ever survive...
good point... They do need to relocate birds within the state instead of selling them to TX. I understand Twra is mostly self funded and needs the money, but we also need the turkeys or fewer people will buy licenses (res and nonres) resulting in less income for Twra in the long run.


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Funny thing about turkeys going to Texas... Anyone want to guess where those Florida strain large mouth bass came from??? I'll give a hint it wasn't Florida!
 
First off,, It cost way more than that to hunt turkey in KY.. Secondly, I cant see any reduction in hunters in my area..As a matter of fact, I heard more shots on opening morning this year than I have heard in the 20yrs I've had this particular spot....11 shots all on the neighboring properties by 9am.......We did not kill a bird that day and never hunted our property again after that day. WHY? because we are trying to get the bird population back up on our farm but we are having to fight our neighbors to do it.....I have 580 acres of prime turkey habitat but our birds are being killed on the 20-50 acre farms that join us......What do you do???
 
I did not mean it only cost $60 to hunt turkey in KY. The turkey tag went up from $30 to $60 and the non res hunting license also went up. Non-res hunting license cost $140 plus $75 for a turkey tag instead of $60. To hunt turkey in the spring,(two bearded birds) it will cost a non-res $215. Non res deer tag went up to $120, therefore, for one antlered and one anterless deer, it will cost you $260. For both deer and spring turkey - $335 for 2015.
 
TNTomtaker01":3g8vs89m said:
catman529":3g8vs89m said:
Roost 1":3g8vs89m said:
Because they would not ever survive...
good point... They do need to relocate birds within the state instead of selling them to TX. I understand Twra is mostly self funded and needs the money, but we also need the turkeys or fewer people will buy licenses (res and nonres) resulting in less income for Twra in the long run.


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Funny thing about turkeys going to Texas... Anyone want to guess where those Florida strain large mouth bass came from??? I'll give a hint it wasn't Florida!

As far as I'm concerned, they can keep their fish....
 
Who cares where our Florida strain largemouth came from, we're talking about turkeys here, with things the way they are now the last thing we need is for the turkeys we do have to get trapped and sold to another state. If anything they need to be relocated to some parts of the state that has had major declines.
 
ZachMarkus":2fyzjwg2 said:
Who cares where our Florida strain largemouth came from, we're talking about turkeys here, with things the way they are now the last thing we need is for the turkeys we do have to get trapped and sold to another state. If anything they need to be relocated to some parts of the state that has had major declines.
yes


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ZachMarkus":2mx3egnv said:
Who cares where our Florida strain largemouth came from, we're talking about turkeys here, with things the way they are now the last thing we need is for the turkeys we do have to get trapped and sold to another state. If anything they need to be relocated to some parts of the state that has had major declines.
The fish came from a hatchery in east Texas where our turkeys went to... See what I'm saying now? I for one can care less about a fish just thought it was kinda odd coincidence.
 
TNTomtaker01":w1fk5jfi said:
ZachMarkus":w1fk5jfi said:
Who cares where our Florida strain largemouth came from, we're talking about turkeys here, with things the way they are now the last thing we need is for the turkeys we do have to get trapped and sold to another state. If anything they need to be relocated to some parts of the state that has had major declines.
The fish came from a hatchery in east Texas where our turkeys went to... See what I'm saying now? I for one can care less about a fish just thought it was kinda odd coincidence.

Oh ok I see what you're saying now, yeah that is kind of odd.
 
I seen it posted on they're Facebook back a few months ago and now I can't find it to save my life. I'll look some more tonight and try to find it.
 
Roost 1...

Exactly like deer hunting. You can control what happens on your land but not adjoining. You don't shoot your birds but the neighbors do. Those who hunt for older, bigger bucks usually advocate letting bucks walk. Those that don't say go for it...on your own land, but don't tell me what I can shoot elsewhere. All the work and sacrifice you make is for nothing if everyone's not on the same page.
 
TNTomtaker01":3nx0lfms said:
I seen it posted on they're Facebook back a few months ago and now I can't find it to save my life. I'll look some more tonight and try to find it.

States do this a lot, nothing unusual.


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Roost 1":34p37nsm said:
First off,, It cost way more than that to hunt turkey in KY.. Secondly, I cant see any reduction in hunters in my area..As a matter of fact, I heard more shots on opening morning this year than I have heard in the 20yrs I've had this particular spot....11 shots all on the neighboring properties by 9am.......We did not kill a bird that day and never hunted our property again after that day. WHY? because we are trying to get the bird population back up on our farm but we are having to fight our neighbors to do it.....I have 580 acres of prime turkey habitat but our birds are being killed on the 20-50 acre farms that join us......What do you do???

Bait the snot out of your property, hold the birds all season while you hunt somewhere else. Starve out your neighbors

It's ugly and greedy, but it works
 
Setterman":109npsxg said:
Roost 1":109npsxg said:
First off,, It cost way more than that to hunt turkey in KY.. Secondly, I cant see any reduction in hunters in my area..As a matter of fact, I heard more shots on opening morning this year than I have heard in the 20yrs I've had this particular spot....11 shots all on the neighboring properties by 9am.......We did not kill a bird that day and never hunted our property again after that day. WHY? because we are trying to get the bird population back up on our farm but we are having to fight our neighbors to do it.....I have 580 acres of prime turkey habitat but our birds are being killed on the 20-50 acre farms that join us......What do you do???

Bait the snot out of your property, hold the birds all season while you hunt somewhere else. Starve out your neighbors

It's ugly and greedy, but it works

That's exactly what they are doing to us.....it will catch up to them one day.... I guess the good thing is is that they only hunt a couple of days... Never heard a shot on any of those properties after the first day... Unfortunately all the gobs were killed the first day..... We didn't have many to start with...which is why we never hunted that farm again..
 

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