I have seen some folks build 8 twist .270s that were killer with the 170. I think that the .270 is generally marketed toward people who want off the shelf ammo availability and not people who build custom rifles that are purpose built for long, heavy bullets. I'm glad you mentioned the 22 creed though, because that has been on my radar. The only thing keeping me from doing it right now is that I have a 6 creed that I can just load lighter bullets in. I haven't been down that rabbit hole enough yet to see if there is an advantage either way.