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Vermin93
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More Calimari and UK basketball bashing here, with a little Duke bashing mixed in for fairness.
http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik ... tml#page=1
Many of these Kentucky basketball mercenaries aren't even in the state long enough to gain residency!
It's a NBA farm team that has no business being associated with a public university.
The NCAA rules are a joke and quite honestly the sport at the collegiate level has become a dirty shame.....in my opinion.
http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik ... tml#page=1
Many of these Kentucky basketball mercenaries aren't even in the state long enough to gain residency!
It's a NBA farm team that has no business being associated with a public university.
The NCAA rules are a joke and quite honestly the sport at the collegiate level has become a dirty shame.....in my opinion.
THEdonkey0515
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A lot of people think Kentucky is a joke, watching a ESPN show now before work.
There talking about how that press conference were the 7 players stood up was a joke, how players just come there to be a one and done player not to play and respect college Bball.
And how they wish CaL would go pro, but then they all agreed he is a recruiting coach and Not a coach COACH and probably would not be successful because he won't be able to get 7 of the top 10 players every year like he does now lol
A LOT pf people are blaming the the farm system One a done schools for the reason so many people have turned away from college BBALL and say its boaring and not played right.
There talking about how that press conference were the 7 players stood up was a joke, how players just come there to be a one and done player not to play and respect college Bball.
And how they wish CaL would go pro, but then they all agreed he is a recruiting coach and Not a coach COACH and probably would not be successful because he won't be able to get 7 of the top 10 players every year like he does now lol
A LOT pf people are blaming the the farm system One a done schools for the reason so many people have turned away from college BBALL and say its boaring and not played right.
encore06
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Roost 1":4b5714nq said:
Do you really believe that??? Hahahaha! And you think I'm basketball ignorant. Do yourself a favor and don't wager the house on KY winning it next year. If Cal couldn't win it with this year's team, which was undoubtedly the best in the nation even though they didn't win it all, he won't even get close next year.
Vermin93
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Down with the "one-and-done" and all those who enable and support it, including the NCAA, Calimari, UK, UK basketball and UK fans!
How many of Calimari's next group of basketball mercenaries have ever lived a week of their life in the State of Kentucky? Sadly, the answer is none. You have to wonder if they even play basketball in Kentucky high schools, because there is very little Kentucky on the Kentucky basketball team.
These aren't Kentucky Wildcats, they are Kentucky Carpetbaggers.
The one-and-done criticism now applies to Duke, but not to the same degree as Kentucky where the practice has become fully institutionalized by Calimari.
How many of Calimari's next group of basketball mercenaries have ever lived a week of their life in the State of Kentucky? Sadly, the answer is none. You have to wonder if they even play basketball in Kentucky high schools, because there is very little Kentucky on the Kentucky basketball team.
These aren't Kentucky Wildcats, they are Kentucky Carpetbaggers.
The one-and-done criticism now applies to Duke, but not to the same degree as Kentucky where the practice has become fully institutionalized by Calimari.
Vermin93":32pl1x2t said:
So you are saying YOUR future children must not be allowed to go to any collage of their choice outside their home state.
I truly doubt you would do this to your own children. But you seem to be fine with forcing others to keep their kids in their state.
For you info, 3 scholarship players were born in Ky. People are lined up wanting to go to Kentucky, so many that the entire "walk ons" are from out of state. They were just happened to get picked from a group of 350 kids that volunteered to be a walk on.
The whole thing is a NBA rule, not a NCAA rule. But of course some people have to HATE the best.
Personally I'd rather see them change the NBA rule to TWO YEARS of college.
Vermin93
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I'm saying that Kentucky's basketball program under Calimari is all about a recruiting philosophy targeted at one-and-done carpetbaggers.
Yes, UK has 3 token scholarship players from Kentucky. Lanter never plays. Hawkins and Willis are lucky to get a few minutes in garbage time.
If it wasn't for Calimari pimping his one-and-done sales pitch to elite players outside of Kentucky, Kentucky fans would have much less to cheer for.
Booker, Towns and Lyles can't even buy resident hunting licenses in Kentucky because they haven't even been there a year!
Ladies and gentlemen, your former Kentucky Wildcats...
A kid from Michigan - one and done
Two brothers from Texas - two and done
A kid from New Jersey - one and done
A kid from Kansas - three and done (it's a miracle!)
A kid from Indiana - one and done
Wisconsin - 7 scholarship players from Wisconsin, including 3 starters, and a starting lineup comprised of 3 seniors, a junior and a sophomore. It is poetic justice that they sent the Kentucky Carpetbaggers packing!
Yes, UK has 3 token scholarship players from Kentucky. Lanter never plays. Hawkins and Willis are lucky to get a few minutes in garbage time.
If it wasn't for Calimari pimping his one-and-done sales pitch to elite players outside of Kentucky, Kentucky fans would have much less to cheer for.
Booker, Towns and Lyles can't even buy resident hunting licenses in Kentucky because they haven't even been there a year!
Ladies and gentlemen, your former Kentucky Wildcats...
A kid from Michigan - one and done
Two brothers from Texas - two and done
A kid from New Jersey - one and done
A kid from Kansas - three and done (it's a miracle!)
A kid from Indiana - one and done
Wisconsin - 7 scholarship players from Wisconsin, including 3 starters, and a starting lineup comprised of 3 seniors, a junior and a sophomore. It is poetic justice that they sent the Kentucky Carpetbaggers packing!
encore06
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Vermin93
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The truth about Kentucky basketball hurts (I didn't write "University of" because I don't believe it's an appropriate use of words in this case).
Calimari runs a NBA farm team, not a college basketball team.
Michigan State - 7 scholarship players from Michigan, including 2 starters. Starting lineup of 2 seniors, 2 juniors and a sophomore.
Calimari runs a NBA farm team, not a college basketball team.
Michigan State - 7 scholarship players from Michigan, including 2 starters. Starting lineup of 2 seniors, 2 juniors and a sophomore.
Vermin, I agree with your assessment of Calipari. KY fans, if they are honest with themselves, will also agree after he skips town and realize what he has left in his wake. Nothing. But I don't understand the emphasis on kids not from KY. Any top school is going to recruit nationally. Are most of Notre Dame's players from IN or even Catholic schools/families? I doubt it. Plus I think MI and WI are going to produce more blue chip basketball players given larger populations and urban centers. If your point is that Calipari is overrated as a coach, I agree.
We could put all of you idiots basketball knowledge in a thimble and it would be like dropping a bb in a wash tub......Now since all you guys want to do is stir the pot, I thought I would add to it.... :stir: :stir:
Roost 1":2cimhnvk said:
What gives you the right to call people idiots just because they have a opinion??? Do you THINK you know more about basketball than everybody on here??? Just because KY ( Cal ) cheats ( and you know this is true, look at his past ) doesn't mean you know more than people. But again, that shows the lack of coaching ability Cal has to not win it all every year!!! He has so many first rounders each year please explain why he doesn't win EVERY year??? Don't give that BS answer KY was tired!!!! :rotf:
Vermin93
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OHVATN":2w6e6oa1 said:
My point is that I find it pathetic that Kentucky's model for success is for Calimari to rent a small group of high school kids from distant states for about 9 months. That is why I call them basketball mercenaries. It would be different if they came to attend the University of Kentucky as student-athletes and had to put in the time like most college players, but they don't. They are there to play basketball for less than a year for Calimari and move on. It's a joke.
One reason I prefer college sports to pro sports is because there is usually a measurable local, regional or cultural connection between college teams and their players. A connection between the players and the fans is also developed over the course of their career as student athletes. This is not true with Kentucky basketball. Big Blue Nation cheers for a small group of free agents from other states who work in Lexington on 9-month contracts. It's even worse than the pros where free agents come and go.
Smaller, private schools like Notre Dame have some unique challenges when it comes to recruiting athletes. That said, Notre Dame has 5 scholarship players from Indiana and 5 other scholarship players from Catholic High Schools. The local and cultural connection is clearly there. Also, these players actually attend classes in pursuit of a usable degree and all of them actually graduate.
Another example is North Carolina, which has 9 scholarship players from North Carolina.
I would reconsider my feelings about Kentucky basketball if Big Blue Nation would do four things:
1. Admit that Kentucky high school basketball is far from being a hotbed of talent and that the only way Kentucky can compete for championships is to secure talent from other states.
2. Admit that the strategy of Kentucky basketball under Calimari is to sell the one-and-done by focusing on the NBA and de-emphasizing the academic side of attending a university as a student-athlete
3. Disclose the schedule of classes, the attendance reports and the grades for all one-and-done and two-and-done players at Kentucky.
4. Admit that the NBA's age limit and the associated one-and-done scenario that it has created is not good for college basketball.
Mudbone
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Most of the best basketball players in the country want to play at Kentucky. Everyone needs to get over it. I am NOT a ky fan. These kids are doing what is best for themselves. Can you blame them?
I'm sure no one would care if it was their favorite school pulling in all the best players.
I'm sure no one would care if it was their favorite school pulling in all the best players.
TreyB":22y7ig3d said:
And what gives YOU the right to say Coach Cal CHEATS??? Prove it.
The Hall of Fame could NOT prove it, the NCAA could not prove it, NOBODY can prove it. ONLY the haters say it but offer NO proof, NONE.
Yes Coach Cal WILL leave someday, guess what? So has EVERY coach in the land, a few of the die while still coach but very few. A coach leaving is nothing new, that's life. YOU yourself WILL leave a job someday so does that mean you cheat?? Of course not but haters will believe that and what will they say about you when you do leave??
Vermin93":vl1vd8go said:
1, I have been a life long member of the BBN and have NEVER seen any other member talk about Kentucky high school being a "hot bed of talent". Could you post where you got that??
2 Nobody has never doubted Calimari has ever gone after anybody but the BEST players he can find.
3 You want to see the grades and graduations rates?? UK Basketball puts out a report every year and has been doing it for years., Wallie, the one that's leaving ater 3 years, gradates in Aug. The guy that got hurt and had to set out the season, this is his 3rd year, he gradates in May of this year. Remember John Wall that went pro?? He's been going to UK every summer and gradates in Aug 2016. The list goes on and on.
4. The BBN has been saying from day one that's it's the NBA's rule and NOT the NCAA's or Cal's rule unlike certain haters have posted from time and time. Like I've said for years, I would rather the NBA rule be no less than 2 years of college.
As for me. For people to say kids who are the better players CANNOT go to the college of their choice and MUST go to the school IN THEIR STATE smacks of jealously and is the very thing all the communist Warsaw Pact countries did for their Olympic Teams. They were MADE to go to the schools the govt told them to go and would NOT allow them to go to the schools they WANTED to go to.
