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AT Hiker":2ieaa2v3 said:
tn24":2ieaa2v3 said:
Yeah AT I checked it and it was the same. Does Dickson county have any public land for hunting? I got to thinking maybe people were hitting public instead of private when they were checking birds out but if you hit public in the choice it asks what WMA so that can't be it.

None of any significants that I know of, especially to account for 50% of the birds.


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I looked it up AT, the public land in Dickson county is Cheatham Lake WMA. Must be a good spot. According to the report there has been more killed there than the rest of the county.
 
poorhunter":3es5oncq said:
She's the crazy lefty from the state of New York. Alexandria Ocacio Cortez. She studied economics at the Unvinersity of Pluto, with a doctorate in hypocrisy and a minor in stand up comedy. and the left are absolutely in LOVE with her. Kinda like Bernie Sanders on steroids and a much bigger problem to America than he is.

Ok. Makes sense now. I laugh at her dumbazz daily!


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tn24":3hxpc010 said:
I looked it up AT, the public land in Dickson county is Cheatham Lake WMA. Must be a good spot. According to the report there has been more killed there than the rest of the county.

Lol, like I said the data is obviously wrong. I'm not even sure they killed that many ducks at the lake this year[emoji23]


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UpperTully":1d0jfmmf said:
The other day, I saw a guy post on a FB group, who drove down Now Tennessee has been promoted as a good place to hunt and our license prices and liberal limits attract non-residents. I think it's time for Commissioners/TWRA impose raising our non-resident license fees and perhaps making provisions for prohibited non residents from hunting the first 2 weeks or cutting their bag limits, or doing a draw system for non-resident tags.

Just my 2 cents,

I agree with pretty much everything you say except this. You do realize Tenn is one of the highest if not the highest right? $332 for me to kill turkeys. Even Iowa ain't that high. I can buy an annual nonresident license in about any other state cheaper than a Tenn nonresident 10 day license
 
2018 (first 14 days of regular season) - 15,475

2019 (first 14 days of regular season) - 17,038

This includes early juvenile hunt, early season hunts like Chuck Swan SF, statewide, WMAs, etc.
 
Andy S.":2cb5n5ud said:
2018 (first 14 days of regular season) - 15,475

2019 (first 14 days of regular season) - 17,038

This includes early juvenile hunt, early season hunts like Chuck Swan SF, statewide, WMAs, etc.

Seems to be in line with what I am seeing in my areas...birds are a little more plentiful than last year. Weather has helped me out a lot compared to last year.


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Andy S.":37kflxbd said:
2018 (first 14 days of regular season) - 15,475

2019 (first 14 days of regular season) - 17,038

This includes early juvenile hunt, early season hunts like Chuck Swan SF, statewide, WMAs, etc.
Regardless what numbers we are VIEWING,
the question remains how accurately do they reflect the actual kill numbers?

Another question is just how do they correlate with the actual turkey population?

I don't have the answers to these questions
but do believe we have fewer turkeys in more areas than we have more turkeys "statewide",
and do believe the population has been trending downward now for many years.
 
elknturkey":3pf4bccd said:
UpperTully":3pf4bccd said:
The other day, I saw a guy post on a FB group, who drove down Now Tennessee has been promoted as a good place to hunt and our license prices and liberal limits attract non-residents. I think it's time for Commissioners/TWRA impose raising our non-resident license fees and perhaps making provisions for prohibited non residents from hunting the first 2 weeks or cutting their bag limits, or doing a draw system for non-resident tags.

Just my 2 cents,

I agree with pretty much everything you say except this. You do realize Tenn is one of the highest if not the highest right? $332 for me to kill turkeys. Even Iowa ain't that high. I can buy an annual nonresident license in about any other state cheaper than a Tenn nonresident 10 day license

How many of those states allow you to kill 4 Easterns in 4 days at any point of the spring season?
 
Andy S.":2hewctrb said:
Bone Collector":2hewctrb said:
If you want to educate folks tell them tactics that work to kill turkey or deer.
Believe me, we are trying, but some cannot see the forest for the trees. You want my opinion on how to kill more turkeys: get in the woods, leave the crutches and cameras at home, and stay off the internet and Youtube. You want to know why out of staters limb lift one out in front of you on your favorite godforsaken WMA, look in the mirror. We have been TRYING to educate several of you for years about blabbing on hunting forums, but we are OBVIOUSLY wasting OUR time, and it is mind blowing to us. It is far bigger than me, it is several of the most respected traditional turkey hunters on this site, as well as on OG and GN. Go about your business, maybe you can meat up with Pro Staffer Shane Simpson out there and ask him who personally invited him to TN. Or better yet, message him on one of the forums, I am sure you will be shocked by who he reveals invited him to a middle TN WMA. Again, kill more turkeys by keeping your mouth shut and fingers off the keyboard. Everyone you invite, invites 10 more, and it just keeps growing. I thought this was common sense, but it appears it isn't anymore. My .02
So you're saying that out of staters or people who do find the birds aren't gonna invite people? I thought that's why it is called PUBLIC land. Some people on here need to get over themselves. It's turkey hunting. It's supposed to be a hobby, something that somebody enjoys doing, not something that people argue about constantly. I can't tell you how many times i've been back in the boonies on public land, and out of nowhere a person appears. Just because you don't like to help out other people, doesn't mean everybody else doesn't. Some of this crap on here blows my mind. I've never met Catman a day in my life, but he enjoys what he does and obviously other people do, me in particular. Just don't see why people have to tear others down.
 
Gobbler88":2yb0ir3i said:
Andy S.":2yb0ir3i said:
Bone Collector":2yb0ir3i said:
If you want to educate folks tell them tactics that work to kill turkey or deer.
Believe me, we are trying, but some cannot see the forest for the trees. You want my opinion on how to kill more turkeys: get in the woods, leave the crutches and cameras at home, and stay off the internet and Youtube. You want to know why out of staters limb lift one out in front of you on your favorite godforsaken WMA, look in the mirror. We have been TRYING to educate several of you for years about blabbing on hunting forums, but we are OBVIOUSLY wasting OUR time, and it is mind blowing to us. It is far bigger than me, it is several of the most respected traditional turkey hunters on this site, as well as on OG and GN. Go about your business, maybe you can meat up with Pro Staffer Shane Simpson out there and ask him who personally invited him to TN. Or better yet, message him on one of the forums, I am sure you will be shocked by who he reveals invited him to a middle TN WMA. Again, kill more turkeys by keeping your mouth shut and fingers off the keyboard. Everyone you invite, invites 10 more, and it just keeps growing. I thought this was common sense, but it appears it isn't anymore. My .02
So you're saying that out of staters or people who do find the birds aren't gonna invite people? I thought that's why it is called PUBLIC land. Some people on here need to get over themselves. It's turkey hunting. It's supposed to be a hobby, something that somebody enjoys doing, not something that people argue about constantly. I can't tell you how many times i've been back in the boonies on public land, and out of nowhere a person appears. Just because you don't like to help out other people, doesn't mean everybody else doesn't. Some of this crap on here blows my mind. I've never met Catman a day in my life, but he enjoys what he does and obviously other people do, me in particular. Just don't see why people have to tear others down.
I agree with most of your post, except for the statement that this is a 'hobby'. Its WAY more than a hobby for many of us, so that's why people get their feathers ruffled about giving up secrets on public land.

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Gobbler88":266qn49b said:
So you're saying that out of staters or people who do find the birds aren't gonna invite people? I thought that's why it is called PUBLIC land.
What I've learned from this thread is everyone invites everybody to their public land hot spots, totally opposite of MOST others I've ever been around. Yes, SOME MAY invite a trustworthy friend/coworker/etc or two over time, but if it's their primary public spot they hunt, and rely on, they keep it close hold for the most part. It's always been that way in my neck of the woods.

Gobbler88":266qn49b said:
Just because you don't like to help out other people, doesn't mean everybody else doesn't.
Again, showing your ignorance on this subject. I've helped more on here over the last 20 years, with the outdoors, hunting, product reviews, money, among other things, than you'll ever know. This is blatantly obvious based on your comments. It's obviously not clear to many here, but I'm trying to help Catman and other middle TN locals better enjoy their quality public land turkey hunting, for the long haul.
 
They don't get it Andy...spirit of the age says disagreement equals hate and pretty much everybody is falling for it. No one is "bashing" him or "hating" on him. It's jusy plain silly to say those things.

Like I said before, pretty much everyone likes Catman's posts and his videos and him. Just some advice/admonition was given and things went way haywire.
 
poorhunter":1h12fgzg said:
They don't get it Andy...spirit of the age says disagreement equals hate and pretty much everybody is falling for it. No one is "bashing" him or "hating" on him. It's jusy plain silly to say those things.

Like I said before, pretty much everyone likes Catman's posts and his videos and him. Just some advice/admonition was given and things went way haywire.
If someone said something about the way you do things or the way you hunted would you not get aggravated? Like I commented to someone, or it may have been you in another thread, I don't hate anybody because they disagree with me. All of these "old guys" can say whatever they want on here, but if you ain't in their little circle, you're a liberal or "ignorant".
 
Andy S.":kfwoclw8 said:
Gobbler88":kfwoclw8 said:
So you're saying that out of staters or people who do find the birds aren't gonna invite people? I thought that's why it is called PUBLIC land.
What I've learned from this thread is everyone invites everybody to their public land hot spots, totally opposite of MOST others I've ever been around. Yes, SOME MAY invite a trustworthy friend/coworker/etc or two over time, but if it's their primary public spot they hunt, and rely on, they keep it close hold for the most part. It's always been that way in my neck of the woods.

Gobbler88":kfwoclw8 said:
Just because you don't like to help out other people, doesn't mean everybody else doesn't.
Again, showing your ignorance on this subject. I've helped more on here over the last 20 years, with the outdoors, hunting, product reviews, money, among other things, than you'll ever know. This is blatantly obvious based on your comments. It's obviously not clear to many here, but I'm trying to help Catman and other middle TN locals better enjoy their quality public land turkey hunting, for the long haul.
Number one buddy, I haven't been on this site that long, number two, the only ignorance I see is you and other people that gripe about the way others do things. Do you think me or anybody else really gives a rats tail about what you think about the we do things? Everybody else shares their opinion, and I'll do the same. Just because you are older than others don't mean that me and others can't say anything. And we're the bad guys, liberals, etc. I've also helped many others, including children get into the outdoors, so you don't really know as much about me as you think. I am really second guessing myself for joining this site because before this, I thought hunters were a brotherhood. Not a bunch of guys who mouth off about the way others do things. I just don't see the good in "giving people advice" when they are doing what they love.
 
UpperTully":3auo0rf9 said:
elknturkey":3auo0rf9 said:
UpperTully":3auo0rf9 said:
The other day, I saw a guy post on a FB group, who drove down Now Tennessee has been promoted as a good place to hunt and our license prices and liberal limits attract non-residents. I think it's time for Commissioners/TWRA impose raising our non-resident license fees and perhaps making provisions for prohibited non residents from hunting the first 2 weeks or cutting their bag limits, or doing a draw system for non-resident tags.

Just my 2 cents,

I agree with pretty much everything you say except this. You do realize Tenn is one of the highest if not the highest right? $332 for me to kill turkeys. Even Iowa ain't that high. I can buy an annual nonresident license in about any other state cheaper than a Tenn nonresident 10 day license

How many of those states allow you to kill 4 Easterns in 4 days at any point of the spring season?
How many nonresidents you think are even killing 4 birds
 
Gobbler88":3epn4btl said:
poorhunter":3epn4btl said:
They don't get it Andy...spirit of the age says disagreement equals hate and pretty much everybody is falling for it. No one is "bashing" him or "hating" on him. It's jusy plain silly to say those things.

Like I said before, pretty much everyone likes Catman's posts and his videos and him. Just some advice/admonition was given and things went way haywire.
If someone said something about the way you do things or the way you hunted would you not get aggravated? Like I commented to someone, or it may have been you in another thread, I don't hate anybody because they disagree with me. All of these "old guys" can say whatever they want on here, but if you ain't in their little circle, you're a liberal or "ignorant".

Haha, I'm not old well maybe to some 43 is old

It wouldn't offend me or bother me, people have different opinions and I'm not some snowflake that gets my feelings hurts if someone disagrees. I'm actually the type to listen and take in others views not bow up because they're different.

Maybe if the snowflakes listened they'd find the opportunity to learn and or appreciate where us old guys are coming from. Alas they (you) won't and thus you're constantly getting your delicate feelings hurt
 
Gobbler88 I haven't been joined that long either, but I lurked for years, after reading these guys post daily, you feel like you know them on a personal level. Kinda like getting to eat breakfast at the local gas station with some old time turkey hunters.

Andy S is probably the most RESPECTFUL man on this form, and has a wealth of knowledge on a heck of a lot more things than I do. If the situation ever arrived he would be one of the first ones to lend a helping hand, in some way shape or form, past history proves that and I ve never even met the man. Not saying your not the same kinda feller gobbler88.

All Anyone has mentioned toward catman is quality advice like they have for years now. He!& we remember the first turkey he ever killed and would love to see him kill 100 more. We all know what happens when word gets out about a honey hole, much less 115,00 views on the YouTube! We just don't wanna see 1,000 out of state trucks parked where they last saw that maroon dodge Cummins. This site is like a brotherhood and I look up to these salty old men lol, turkey hunting has changed so much even in my 27 years on this earth not everyone is going to agree especially with today's kill at all cost mentality. I sure would hate to see anyone leave because different opinions
 
Great Post, Newt.
Totally agree with you.
And especially with the below . . . . .

Newt":1u3wybru said:
Andy S is probably the most RESPECTFUL man on this form . . . . . If the situation ever arrived he would be one of the first ones to lend a helping hand, in some way shape or form, past history proves that.

All Anyone has mentioned toward catman is quality advice like they have for years now.
We remember the first turkey he ever killed and would love to see him kill 100 more.
 
Setterman":1feqn6zf said:
Gobbler88":1feqn6zf said:
poorhunter":1feqn6zf said:
They don't get it Andy...spirit of the age says disagreement equals hate and pretty much everybody is falling for it. No one is "bashing" him or "hating" on him. It's jusy plain silly to say those things.

Like I said before, pretty much everyone likes Catman's posts and his videos and him. Just some advice/admonition was given and things went way haywire.
If someone said something about the way you do things or the way you hunted would you not get aggravated? Like I commented to someone, or it may have been you in another thread, I don't hate anybody because they disagree with me. All of these "old guys" can say whatever they want on here, but if you ain't in their little circle, you're a liberal or "ignorant".

Haha, I'm not old well maybe to some 43 is old

It wouldn't offend me or bother me, people have different opinions and I'm not some snowflake that gets my feelings hurts if someone disagrees. I'm actually the type to listen and take in others views not bow up because they're different.

Maybe if the snowflakes listened they'd find the opportunity to learn and or appreciate where us old guys are coming from. Alas they (you) won't and thus you're constantly getting your delicate feelings hurt
My feelings ain't hurt one bit. And how many times do I have to say I'm not offended? I have 2 guys about your age that are even on this forum that I greatly respect that share many of the same views as many on here, but there is a right and a wrong way to do it. And people that make smug comments (like yourself) does nothing but makes things worse. So I, like you and others, will share my opinion whether I'm called a snowflake, whatever. You can get a point across without being rude. Again just so you and others know that I ain't crying or anything, but that's not a way to introduce people into the outdoors. And tell me, why is it when someone disagrees with you or someone like Andy, one of y'all are always there to hold their hand? So make sure you know who your talking to before you start saying my feelings are hurt. I could give 2 craps what you especially think of me. I just hate seeing a respectable fella like Catman get so much grief. And this isn't the only time he's got it. And again, I don't tell everybody and their brother where I hunt, but I try to help people out if they need it.
 
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