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[Levee Jumper]

I think you should all hug and make up. Im not into that touchy feely stuff so ill just say that I will try and refrain from calling someone a doofus for telling the entirety of the world exactly where they turkey hunt should anyone in the future think thats a good idea.

 

[AT Hiker]

The wooly mammoths would disagree with that as would the white rhino

And the dodo birds. Although some might argue this forum has a few! [emoji23]

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[emoji23]


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[AT Hiker]

"no story of wildlife decline in North America is more widely known than the demise of the buffalo"

In 2016 Pres Obama officially made the American Bison our National Mammal, fun fact many do t now about.
Maybe Franklin had a Nostradamus vision when he suggested the Wild Turkey for the National Bird[emoji33]


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[gasman]

The wooly mammoths would disagree with that as would the white rhino

And the dodo birds. Although some might argue this forum has a few! [emoji23]

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All of which had basically no regulations on them....

 

[knightrider]

Good Lord this place has gotten pitiful, bunch of grown men :roll:

 

[Levee Jumper]

Good Lord this place has gotten pitiful, bunch of grown men :roll:

Maybe you should join the grown men club and quit hunting out of your kids playhouse with your plastic turkeys oke: :stir:

 

[NumberOne]

Good Lord this place has gotten pitiful, bunch of grown men :roll:

Maybe you should join the grown men club and quit hunting out of your kids playhouse with your plastic turkeys oke: :stir:

Good joke, Dude.

 

[REN]

The wooly mammoths would disagree with that as would the white rhino

And the dodo birds. Although some might argue this forum has a few! [emoji23]

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All of which had basically no regulations on them....

Obviously I was using some extreme examples, however the point remains it is not a FACT that mother nature will balance populations when humans continue to interfere. There are plenty of examples to support this. Side note I actually did go to school for wildlife biology and forestry

 

[UpperTully]

I'm a little late on this thread but have read through every post. WOW is all I have to say.

I enjoy watching Catman's videos, chatting with him on FB and wouldn't mind sharing a hunt with him in some of these big river bottoms at some point but the delivery of certain posts are a bit over the top.

As a public lander since 1994, I have noticed a increase of pressure in recent years, especially for turkeys. While any OOSER can come hunt our WMAs, I ultimately blame social media (FB and YT) for this as well as the changed hunting culture. These non-seasoned public land hunters are blowing out our WMAs by exposing them on social media for the lack of actually understanding what they are doing and or frankly don't care if droves of hunters come hunt them. I see this with a local WMA as a result of a FB page created by a hunter for that WMA. Now pressure is unreal there. I wish it had never been exposed the way it has and would stop.

I enjoy and appreciate what Catman and THP produce, but it doesn't take much investigative work to figure out what WMA's they're hunting just from watching the footage. Doing interviews in vehicles, showing landmarks, congregating in public places, showing satellite maps gives things away. I watched a few segments on THP of some early season bow hunts in KY and was able to figure out the exact WMA and which area of the WMA they were hunting. That being said, I don't know the first thing about Ky public ground. It's a double edged sword. Some of us public landers will figure out where these places are they hunt, its sort of a challenge. No matter how discreet you think you are, some of us public land hunters are going to figure it out.

This morning, a good friend of mine was telling me about a couple hunters with Idaho tags were camped out at a spot on a WMA that me and him have hunted. The other day, I saw a guy post on a FB group, who drove down from New York and was in the Clarksville area looking for advice on where to hunt. I'm sorry, some of us are doing good just finding a few birds to kill. Now Tennessee has been promoted as a good place to hunt and our license prices and liberal limits attract non-residents. I think it's time for Commissioners/TWRA impose raising our non-resident license fees and perhaps making provisions for prohibited non residents from hunting the first 2 weeks or cutting their bag limits, or doing a draw system for non-resident tags.

Just my 2 cents,

 

[Levee Jumper]

Good Lord this place has gotten pitiful, bunch of grown men :roll:

Maybe you should join the grown men club and quit hunting out of your kids playhouse with your plastic turkeys oke: :stir:

Good joke, Dude.

Not a joke at all. I think his nuts may actually fall if he were to learn how to hunt.

 

[bloodtrailing]

The wooly mammoths would disagree with that as would the white rhino

And the dodo birds. Although some might argue this forum has a few! [emoji23]

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Was gonna mention the buffalo but figured that was to obvious

Bobwhite quail


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[TheLBLman]

Bobwhite quail

Great example, and definately more related to turkey than any the others!

The demise of Bobwhite quail had little to do with game laws,
and everything to do with the introduction of foreign grasses replacing native grasses,
fragmenting habitat by development and "clean" farming.

The list goes on & on about what caused the quail demise, including farmers spraying insecticides to eliminate insects required for chick survival.

But think about this:

Much the same requirement are needed for chick survival of baby turkeys!

Those same fescue hay fields that replaced native grasses have also been bad for turkeys.
Clean farming methods, a reduction in insects is also bad news for young turkeys.

For the same reasons quail have become almost extinct in much of Tennessee
turkey populations have been adversely effected.

But unlike quail, the game regs are additionally adversely effecting turkey populations.

 

[TheLBLman]

Another example of a species which went extinct in Tennessee was the Eastern Cougar.

These big cats went extinct neither because of excessive hunting nor a lack of game laws,
but mainly because their main food item was wiped out "statewide".
They fed largely on whitetail deer (plus elk and bison).

Now think about this:

The main food item of young turkeys is insects.

How many grasshoppers you seen lately (during the summer months)
compared to over a decade ago?

 

[TheLBLman]

This morning, a good friend of mine was telling me about a couple hunters with Idaho tags were camped out at a spot on a WMA that me and him have hunted. The other day, I saw a guy post on a FB group, who drove down from New York and was in the Clarksville area looking for advice on where to hunt. I'm sorry, some of us are doing good just finding a few birds to kill. Now Tennessee has been promoted as a good place to hunt and our license prices and liberal limits attract non-residents. I think it's time for Commissioners/TWRA impose raising our non-resident license fees and perhaps making provisions for prohibited non residents from hunting the first 2 weeks or cutting their bag limits, or doing a draw system for non-resident tags.

A few sad realities:

1) The turkey hunting is nowhere near as good as some have made it sound, at least compared to some other states,
but those reading crap on facebook and watching TN produced turkey hunting videos cannot realize that --- so here they come.

2) Compared to some states like New York & Pennsylvania, perhaps we do have great turkey hunting in TN, just nothing like as good as some other states.

3) About those commissioners, they are NOT going to do anything to curtail non-resident license sales.
Why do you think we now have a "velvet" summertime deer hunt?
Their ideology seems to have become more about drawing non-residents than protecting the resource.

All the commissioners don't think this way, some are actually avid turkey hunters themselves, but with deep pockets they can themselves travel to better states to hunt turkey and/or only hunt on very private estates. The problems they're causing on public WMAs (for TN resident hunters) will likely never effect them personally. Kinda like congressmen who have their own special health care and get to opt out of social security.

Similar might could be said for a turkey biologist who doesn't personally hunt turkeys, and/or is not a passionate accomplished hunter.

 

[Buzzard Breath]

What I've learn on this thread so far:

1. TN's 2019 turkey kill is 50% of last year's

2. TN's 2019 turkey kill is a little above last year's.

3. TN's 2019 turkey kill is the same as last year's.

4. Millenials no longer think it's cool to keep public land hunting spots a secret as long as it gets you likes and follows on social media.

Yep. Pretty much the typical stuff.


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[poorhunter]

I'm a little late on this thread but have read through every post. WOW is all I have to say.

I enjoy watching Catman's videos, chatting with him on FB and wouldn't mind sharing a hunt with him in some of these big river bottoms at some point but the delivery of certain posts are a bit over the top.

As a public lander since 1994, I have noticed a increase of pressure in recent years, especially for turkeys. While any OOSER can come hunt our WMAs, I ultimately blame social media (FB and YT) for this as well as the changed hunting culture. These non-seasoned public land hunters are blowing out our WMAs by exposing them on social media for the lack of actually understanding what they are doing and or frankly don't care if droves of hunters come hunt them. I see this with a local WMA as a result of a FB page created by a hunter for that WMA. Now pressure is unreal there. I wish it had never been exposed the way it has and would stop.

I enjoy and appreciate what Catman and THP produce, but it doesn't take much investigative work to figure out what WMA's they're hunting just from watching the footage. Doing interviews in vehicles, showing landmarks, congregating in public places, showing satellite maps gives things away. I watched a few segments on THP of some early season bow hunts in KY and was able to figure out the exact WMA and which area of the WMA they were hunting. That being said, I don't know the first thing about Ky public ground. It's a double edged sword. Some of us public landers will figure out where these places are they hunt, its sort of a challenge. No matter how discreet you think you are, some of us public land hunters are going to figure it out.

This morning, a good friend of mine was telling me about a couple hunters with Idaho tags were camped out at a spot on a WMA that me and him have hunted. The other day, I saw a guy post on a FB group, who drove down from New York and was in the Clarksville area looking for advice on where to hunt. I'm sorry, some of us are doing good just finding a few birds to kill. Now Tennessee has been promoted as a good place to hunt and our license prices and liberal limits attract non-residents. I think it's time for Commissioners/TWRA impose raising our non-resident license fees and perhaps making provisions for prohibited non residents from hunting the first 2 weeks or cutting their bag limits, or doing a draw system for non-resident tags.

Just my 2 cents,

I pretty much think that everyone on here likes cat and his videos. Maybe not all, but a large majority and that has been plainly obvious through the years. I think that has gotten lost in the discussion. I may not have read every post on one of his threads, but he gets a LOT of love from the fellas on here, that to me says something. It doesn't seem like folks remember well when a negative comment comes out.

Try being JimFromTN! That boy said a LOT of AOC kind of stuff and was lit up constantly (deservedly so, unless he was a sheep in wolf clothes like I think).

Faithful are the wounds from a friend, but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.

 

[Spurhunter]

Try being JimFromTN! That boy said a LOT of AOC kind of stuff and was lit up constantly.

Ok, I've racked my brain enough. What's AOC? PM if you need to.


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[woodsman04]

What some fail to realize, it isn't just one guy ruining his honey holes on public land, it's all the other guys that shared the public land with him that are having to compete with the intruders.

Video advertising and hunting on any public land is a bad idea unless you don't say it's public and don't show Ariel photos. Just film and hunt. Don't advertise.


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[poorhunter]

Try being JimFromTN! That boy said a LOT of AOC kind of stuff and was lit up constantly.

Ok, I've racked my brain enough. What's AOC? PM if you need to.


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She's the crazy lefty from the state of New York. Alexandria Ocacio Cortez. She studied economics at the Unvinersity of Pluto, with a doctorate in hypocrisy and a minor in stand up comedy. and the left are absolutely in LOVE with her. Kinda like Bernie Sanders on steroids and a much bigger problem to America than he is.

 

[woodsman04]

Try being JimFromTN! That boy said a LOT of AOC kind of stuff and was lit up constantly.

Ok, I've racked my brain enough. What's AOC? PM if you need to.


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She's the crazy lefty from the state of New York. Alexandria Ocacio Cortez. She studied economics at the Unvinersity of Pluto, with a doctorate in hypocrisy and a minor in stand up comedy. and the left are absolutely in LOVE with her. Kinda like Bernie Sanders on steroids and a much bigger problem to America than he is.

Her being in office is a testament how many stupid uneducated folks there actually are. I honestly think deep in my soul that some of the parts in her head aren't there.


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