Andy S.":2qadkgdd said:
Every time I run the report I get the same numbers...basically half of last year. I'm not saying that's correct but it's all I have seen on the reports.
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Every time I run the report I get the same numbers...basically half of last year. I'm not saying that's correct but it's all I have seen on the reports.
On computers, I am getting 7-8k, but on my phone using the TWRA app, I just got 16,292, which is in line with what the TWRA staff has verbally reported to some guys on here who have called them.poorhunter":10o1z9sk said:
It says average weight for juvi is 4 lbs but spur length 1.25. Awesome jakes. Lol
Everybody I know is way down.
tn24":22z23byk said:
Because for some odd reason it has the county broken down into public and private land. If you check the harvest map and click on a county it will break it down. Hence why the number doubles when the WMAs are included. Makes no sense but that's what I figured out.
I just hope the higher number is actually true.
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catman529
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what are you talking about? This thread has been nothing but a sh*t show. I started it to show that the hunters toolbox is not showing the right numbers and it went south quick. I don't see any advice being given here, I just see bitching and moaning and talking crap about fellow hunters. And some people seem determined to believe the harvest numbers are lower so they can keep bitching about the population. The whole attitude in this forum has been crap lately and it's not the place it used to be where people could actually teach and learn from each other.poorhunter":368yg2dp said:
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You just never know what kind of data people will enter. The 10% jake harvest tracks with previous years, so that seems believable.muddyboots":3l2pmv8h said:
catman529
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it ain't just this thread, it's been ongoing and goes beyond just turkey population issues. Some people are just determined to complain about anything and everything and talk crap about their fellow hunters to the point that you can't hardly keep a decent conversation going anymore. I don't know if I will be hanging around here much anymore. At least not for a whileelknturkey":2r29gckp said:
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Different folks, different strokes. I see a ton of advice, in different flavors from different people, based on their respective experiences over their lifetime. It is sad that some cannot find ANY advice in this entire thread.catman529":z7rq4vcy said:
catman529":13dzhrz8 said:
We need more "women self service product posts" lol.
I will agree it has been a much more serious forum this year for whatever reason. I stopped going in the deer forum years ago due to same direction.
I guess some of us old guys were extra bitter after winter this year hahah. (Including myself in that)
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what are you talking about? This thread has been nothing but a sh*t show. I started it to show that the hunters toolbox is not showing the right numbers and it went south quick. I don't see any advice being given here, I just see bitching and moaning and talking crap about fellow hunters. And some people seem determined to believe the harvest numbers are lower so they can keep bitching about the population. The whole attitude in this forum has been crap lately and it's not the place it used to be where people could actually teach and learn from each other.
Sorry, I totally disagree that there's no advice on this thread or this forum. I do not take it like "talking crap about other hunters". Perspective.
As far as I'm concerned you can go join BSK. This site would be the worse if you got fed up and left like he did, just like this site is the worse because he left. You both can take your advice and experience and wisdom and keep it to yourself or your chosen few who aren't willing to challenge you if that's what you want. If you can't take some heat that's a you problem, even if the heat is not warranted or correct.
what are you talking about? This thread has been nothing but a sh*t show. I started it to show that the hunters toolbox is not showing the right numbers and it went south quick. I don't see any advice being given here, I just see bitching and moaning and talking crap about fellow hunters. And some people seem determined to believe the harvest numbers are lower so they can keep bitching about the population. The whole attitude in this forum has been crap lately and it's not the place it used to be where people could actually teach and learn from each other.
Sorry, I totally disagree that there's no advice on this thread or this forum. I do not take it like "talking crap about other hunters". Perspective.
As far as I'm concerned you can go join BSK. This site would be the worse if you got fed up and left like he did, just like this site is the worse because he left. You both can take your advice and experience and wisdom and keep it to yourself or your chosen few who aren't willing to challenge you if that's what you want. If you can't take some heat that's a you problem, even if the heat is not warranted or correct.
-On a desktop (I'm using a Mac) and. In the toolbox web page scroll down to the bottom and click on "game check harvest results by map"
-click your dates and species
-a statewide map will load
-click on a county, I choose Dickson, notice how it breaks it down into public and private? There is the approx 50% discrepancy
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-click your dates and species
-a statewide map will load
-click on a county, I choose Dickson, notice how it breaks it down into public and private? There is the approx 50% discrepancy
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Setterman
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it ain't just this thread, it's been ongoing and goes beyond just turkey population issues. Some people are just determined to complain about anything and everything and talk crap about their fellow hunters to the point that you can't hardly keep a decent conversation going anymore. I don't know if I will be hanging around here much anymore. At least not for a whilecatman529":2dr879cj said:
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I'm taking this as a shot at me. Let me be clear I make zero apologies for standing up for the tradition of turkey hunting as well as the population and future of this sport
Too many dickbags these days are simply looking for the easiest kill possible. They don't want to hunt they want to only kill. I will never be okay with this and will always speak my mind against this awful mentality
Our sport is sick, it has a disease. The disease is plastic turkeys, tents, and long range sniping and the quality of hunter that's infiltrating to the detriment of the sport
There are too many spineless or naive hunters that turn a blind eye in the name of if it's legal it's cool. That's garbage and I'm not that guy.
catman529":1tuq5zgd said:
I've already mentioned it to you, not sure if you read it amongst everything else or not but the hunters tool box is 100% the same exact data that TWRA has access too. Nobody has any other secret data, unless TWRA has recently changed things.
The discrepancy is the issue now, at least for me. I really want to believe the number is 17,000 killed so far but the way it's broken down is simply wrong.
So my advice would be TWRA needs to seriously get the data set fixed. Because the numbers are not accurate and anyone else reading them needs to realize something is wrong.
Oh and the population is declining, at least every biologist would say so.
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Also, disagreement does not equal hate.
poorhunter":2cpnjry8 said:
I'm blaming Obama for this one. Up until he ran this joint we could have all kinds of disagreements, debates, etc. Then "tolerance" got redefined.
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megalomaniac
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I've stayed out of this one for 2 reasons.....
First, I didnt believe the hunters toolbox numbers were correct. There's no way harvest would drop 50% in one year. I was expecting a 10% decline this year.
Second, I'm lucky enough not to have to hunt public land, so I don't have skin in the game (though I am researching one of the WMAs in south Alabama and planning on hunting it next spring). That being said, I surely wouldn't bring other camera crews into my honey holes on public land.
I've seen how honeyholes out west for elk were ruined by a couple loose lips, both on internet forums as well as videos.
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First, I didnt believe the hunters toolbox numbers were correct. There's no way harvest would drop 50% in one year. I was expecting a 10% decline this year.
Second, I'm lucky enough not to have to hunt public land, so I don't have skin in the game (though I am researching one of the WMAs in south Alabama and planning on hunting it next spring). That being said, I surely wouldn't bring other camera crews into my honey holes on public land.
I've seen how honeyholes out west for elk were ruined by a couple loose lips, both on internet forums as well as videos.
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poorhunter":1jdqf47d said:
What went on in this thread was not about giving someone advice. It became more or less just one dude after another piling on someone for reasons that had nothing to do with the topic at hand. I think people just don't agree with his opinions on the turkey population and they took other avenues to bring that person down. His name was smeared for 4 pages. This wasn't some argument. He didn't even comment on it but it kept on. I am not taking any advice from anyone that does that. Would you?
same thing I was thinking. I started this thread to bring something positive to a rather negative attitude regarding the harvest numbers. All it did was fuel the negativity and make things worse. As much as I hate to say it, and I should have realized this a while ago, but Tndeer is not what it used to be. There's a handful of salty old dudes who only want to see the bad in everything and complain about everything and everyone. Throw in the whole conspiracy theory vibe and it's almost laughable. These people and the general attitude I've seen lately has been running the good people off this forum one at a time. I know a bunch of guys who don't post here anymore, a bunch who post a lot less than before, and we all remember BSK and how he got run off a few years ago. It took me a while, but for once I'm realizing why, and I hate to see it happen.REN":2qo0rcp1 said:
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro[/quote]Hang around cat. This just happens to be one of those threads that can get tempers elevated. I'm not even a resident but this is one of the very few forums I visit regularly[/quote] it ain't just this thread, it's been ongoing and goes beyond just turkey population issues. Some people are just determined to complain about anything and everything and talk crap about their fellow hunters to the point that you can't hardly keep a decent conversation going anymore. I don't know if I will be hanging around here much anymore. At least not for a while
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I'm taking this as a shot at me. Let me be clear I make zero apologies for standing up for the tradition of turkey hunting as well as the population and future of this sport
Too many dickbags these days are simply looking for the easiest kill possible. They don't want to hunt they want to only kill. I will never be okay with this and will always speak my mind against this awful mentality
Our sport is sick, it has a disease. The disease is plastic turkeys, tents, and long range sniping and the quality of hunter that's infiltrating to the detriment of the sport
There are too many spineless or naive hunters that turn a blind eye in the name of if it's legal it's cool. That's garbage and I'm not that guy.[/quote]
Dang man, since all these things are a disease and a crutch to turkey hunting I sure hope that you are a "traditional" deer hunter! I mean do you use a tree stand? Camo? A scope? GPS or weather app? Trail camera? I mean obviously with all your hunting superiority you wouldnt need anything besides a 30-30 with open sights and some plaid pants. Or is it ok to "ruin" something with a "disease" and use "crutches" so long as it isn't turkey?
Pretty certain catman hasn't appologized for anything either and nor should he. He has, from what I have seen, hunted ethically and tried to bring new people into the sport and teach people.
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